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04-01-2010, 03:36 PM
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The FOX coverage was not 100% accurate. We know how the expansion process works and do indeed plan to change it in favor of an open expansion model. Undeniably, it would be advantageous for all parties if the policies and procedure were ammended in such a way. So, having said this - if Sigma Alpha Epsilon hears of the change in IFC's expansion policy and wants to come on, our Kappa Sigma delegate would vote in favor of this expansion (following procedures of open expansion). Our colony and our alumni recognize the bigger picture here. That picture being that it is not all about us... but also for other organizations down the road. Within the next five years, FGCU undergraduate enrollment is projected to increase by 5,000 students (from roughly 10,000 to 15,000). It is estimated that roughly 80% of all Southwest Florida high school graduates are enrolling at FGCU. The campus is evolving at such a streamline pace... enrollment, organizations, buildings, majors, etc. Why not greek life as well? It really is astonishing that Greek Life is being so conservative in the wake of such growth.
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"conservative". Hmm. Well that depends. Does FGCU want each fraternity to have a good amount of members, or do they want each to be struggling to keep members? not saying any of them are right now, but what if they let 4 fraternities on at one time and then each only has 10-14 members?
I know IFC has an information session in the fall. Are tehre really that many men interested in the fraternities that are getting turned down?
Things to think about. I do not agree with Kappa Sigmas "vote to let them come on no matter what" policy. That just doens't make sense.
Also if the FOX coverage was so wrong, maybe you should talk to them. Because their biggest pushing part of that story is that kappa sigma has "no idea why they can't come on campus".
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04-01-2010, 03:44 PM
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Also if the FOX coverage was so wrong, maybe you should talk to them. Because their biggest pushing part of that story is that kappa sigma has "no idea why they can't come on campus".
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We know of the policies and procedures. However, those policies and procedures do not make sense to us and any explanation recieved for them thusfar have been insignificant. The policies seem to have no root, no causation... at least no legitimate causation. Its like we are asking "Why?" and all we are getting in response is "Because." Would you be satisfied with such a lackluster reply?
Rules and regulations are meant to be challenged. If challenged (this case) and proven to be faulty or inadequate, rules and regulations are ammended. Historically, this is how it always has been. Why is this case any different? Shall we cement the current IFC bylaws in impenetrable stone??? I think not, we think not, Kappa Sigma thinks not.
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04-01-2010, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by K∑_PZ_AEKΔB
We know of the policies and procedures. However, those policies and procedures do not make sense to us and any explanation recieved for them thusfar have been insignificant. The policies seem to have no root, no causation... at least no legitimate causation. Its like we are asking "Why?" and all we are getting in response is "Because." Would you be satisfied with such a lackluster reply?
Rules and regulations are meant to be challenged. If challenged (this case) and proven to be faulty or inadequate, rules and regulations are ammended. Historically, this is how it always has been. Why is this case any different? Shall we cement the current IFC bylaws in impenetrable stone??? I think not, we think not, Kappa Sigma thinks not.
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not at fgcu. please understand, the ifc is abiding by the governance of the fgcu administration. greek life is on the campus at their discretion. it is a privilege to have greek life there-it is not a right.
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04-01-2010, 04:55 PM
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We know of the policies and procedures. However, those policies and procedures do not make sense to us and any explanation recieved for them thusfar have been insignificant. The policies seem to have no root, no causation... at least no legitimate causation. Its like we are asking "Why?" and all we are getting in response is "Because." Would you be satisfied with such a lackluster reply?
Rules and regulations are meant to be challenged. If challenged (this case) and proven to be faulty or inadequate, rules and regulations are ammended. Historically, this is how it always has been. Why is this case any different? Shall we cement the current IFC bylaws in impenetrable stone??? I think not, we think not, Kappa Sigma thinks not.
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Um that seems to be an IFC/University decision, not a random group of people who don't agree with it.
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04-01-2010, 05:50 PM
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I don't know the details or how the original colonizers so badly offended the IFC & administration; however, I feel strongly that a group of students have the right to organize as a club or a fraternity if they so chose without the approval of either the IFC or the administration. Whether it was because they didn't like the groups already there or had a special attraction to Kappa Sigma I don't see why they need anybody but Kappa Sigma's approval. As a matter of fact, it was only in very recent years that these policies of first seeking IFC permission developed. The vast majority of older chapters of every fraternity and sorority organized as a group of friends that developed into a local group that ultimately sought out a national connection. I don't think the IFC can legally bar them from membership. I suspect the regulations say that the IFC is made up of all campus chapters and if they get their charter, they're in. While the Greek administrator may wish to exert much control over the process, he/she may find other students have a desire to make their own choices.
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