Entire Sr. Class of All Male, African-Amer. Public School Accepted to 4 Year Colleges

[agzg]

Originally Posted by als463

That's funny because I just read this:

"Only 4 percent of this year's senior class read at grade level as freshmen, said Tim King, the school's founder and CEO."

That tells me that while only 4 percent of this year's senior class read at a level as freshmen, there might be a possibility that many of them read BELOW that. Maybe instead of finding reasons to try and make me look stupid, you could read what was written.

I missed the memo where "Cannot read at grade level" means "can barely read." For all we know, based on what the article said, that could be an 8th grade level instead of a 9th grade level, and the article said nothing about the seniors reading below a freshman level AS SENIORS.

Maybe someone should be tested for reading at their own grade level, where distinctions are made via modifiers.

[als463]

Originally Posted by agzg

I missed the memo where "Cannot read at grade level" means "can barely read." For all we know, based on what the article said, that could be an 8th grade level instead of a 9th grade level, and the article said nothing about the seniors reading below a freshman level AS SENIORS.

Maybe someone should be tested for reading at their own grade level, where distinctions are made via modifiers.

Oh good..another pissing contest. Maybe some schools (like Gannon) allow people who can barely read into their institutions. I can't say the same for my school.

If you think it is acceptable to not read at grade level and then get accepted to a 4-year university, that's great. As a former reading tutor, I have a hard time believing that they went from not reading at their grade level to getting accepted to such good schools without a little "help" from the school. I am interested to see how these students do after a year at these schools. In fact, I hope after 4 years they graduate. I truly think they may have a hard road ahead of them.

I don't really agree with all of Rasputen (sp?) says but, he/she made a good point that not being able to read is unacceptable at any age. No, I don't agree that we should make fun of those who can't read. I think we should be concerned about the schools that continuously push these kids through without giving them the help they really need. I think that is where the real stories is.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by als463

I think that is where the real stories is.

Says the reading tutor.

[als463]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Says the reading tutor.

Good, you're here. I'm sure you agree with the fact that we should allow people to get pushed through the system because of the color of their skin. Yes, I was a reading tutor, until I moved to New York. In fact, I helped a kid get his GED to help him join the military. He is now serving his country. I also helped a mother of 3 get out of the "system" of Children & Youth and also get her GED. She is now a student at a local community college. Can you say the same?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by als463

Good, you're here. I'm sure you agree with the fact that we should allow people to get pushed through the system because of the color of their skin. Yes, I was a reading tutor, until I moved to New York. In fact, I helped a kid get his GED to help him join the military. He is now serving his country. I also helped a mother of 3 get out of the "system" of Children & Youth and also get her GED. She is now a student at a local community college. Can you say the same?

Should or should NOT?

[als463]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Should or should NOT?

For someone who just tried to make me look stupid as a former reading tutor, I'm shocked you don't know how to read.

I think you agree that people SHOULD get pushed through based on their skin color. I'm sure that is what happened in this case (the story, not necessarily you).

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by als463

For someone who just tried to make me look stupid as a former reading tutor, I'm shocked you don't know how to read.

I think you agree that people SHOULD get pushed through based on their skin color. I'm sure that is what happened in this case (the story, not necessarily you).

Oh no...I know how to read and no I DO NOT agree that anyone SHOULD get pushed thru because of their skin color.

That's a bad assumption on your part if that is what you believe.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by als463

I think you agree that people SHOULD get pushed through based on their skin color.

No.

This is an unsurprisingly dumb assertion.

I was going to wonder how the hell this thread ended up where it ended up. Now I see how.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by als463

In fact, I helped a kid get his GED to help him join the military. He is now serving his country. I also helped a mother of 3 get out of the "system" of Children & Youth and also get her GED. She is now a student at a local community college. Can you say the same?

You want a cookie? OMFG I JUST INSPECTED A BUILDING SO STUFF WOULDN'T FALL OFF OF IT AND KILL PEOPLE! Let me tell the Internetz!

[agzg]

Originally Posted by als463

Oh good..another pissing contest. Maybe some schools (like Gannon) allow people who can barely read into their institutions. I can't say the same for my school.

Seriously? This is just laughable.

Originally Posted by als463

If you think it is acceptable to not read at grade level and then get accepted to a 4-year university, that's great. As a former reading tutor, I have a hard time believing that they went from not reading at their grade level to getting accepted to such good schools without a little "help" from the school. I am interested to see how these students do after a year at these schools. In fact, I hope after 4 years they graduate. I truly think they may have a hard road ahead of them.

I don't really agree with all of Rasputen (sp?) says but, he/she made a good point that not being able to read is unacceptable at any age. No, I don't agree that we should make fun of those who can't read. I think we should be concerned about the schools that continuously push these kids through without giving them the help they really need. I think that is where the real stories is.

Find in any of my posts where I said not reading at grade level was acceptable for freshmen at the college level.

My point WAS, and still is, that "not reading at grade level"=/= "can barely read."

I'm adding a new point:
We all know you're a self important bitch. You still have a lot of learning to do about phrasing your opinions in such a way that you won't get such an immediate and negative response. If you don't care about that, or prefer to bitch about everyone hating you because you "speak the truth," then you can be on your merry way - just be aware that it's your choice to make.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by agzg

I'm adding a new point:
We all know you're a self important bitch. You still have a lot of learning to do about phrasing your opinions in such a way that you won't get such an immediate and negative thought. If you don't care about that, or prefer to bitch about everyone hating you because you "speak the truth," then you can be on your merry way - just be aware that it's your choice to make.

Well, damn, okay then.

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I knew I'd love this thread when I saw who the last few posters were.

Signed,
DrPhil's Side Minion

LOL--and I'm not to blame for the turn of this thread. I'm just riding on coattails after the fact.

Originally Posted by als463

What do you think happened here? I think it is sad that we can't just say that an entire class of public school students has been accepted to a 4 year college. Why do we have to push that it is an "all-male, african-american" group of students.

I don't know many schools (public, to be honest) that have 100% of their students go off to college. Because we phrase it the way it has been phrased, we are making note that we don't think "all-male, african americans" from a public school can make it to college. Why does it have to be a race thing? Why does it have to be a gender thing? If it was an "all-female, caucasian" group of students from a public school, no one would bat an eyelash. Why is that?

By harping on the age and gender, we are saying that african-american males are destined for worse. I get that a great percentage of them go to prison or join gangs (from what the article says) but, that is their own fault. If you end up in prison or join a gang, it isn't because of your race, it is because you made those choices.

Good for these young boys, but I hope they got through school on their own accord and not because the school pushed them through, just so they could say this.

There's a lot of inconsistency in this post.

No, African American males are not destined for worse. People confuse disproportionate involvement in crime, lack of education, and unemployment to imply destiny. For instance, the average African American male is not involved in crime. Therefore, being an African American male is not a "plight" nor is it ridden with hardtimes and negativity.

With that said, personal choices matter but it's more than just personal choices. We are talking about aggregate effects here. But, I sense that I'm typing to a brick wall right now.

[xp2k]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Well, damn, okay then.



LOL--and I'm not to blame for the turn of this thread. I'm just riding on coattails after the fact.



There's a lot of inconsistency in this post.

No, African American males are not destined for worse. People confuse disproportionate involvement in crime, lack of education, and unemployment to imply destiny. For instance, the average African American male is not involved in crime. Therefore, being an African American male is not a "plight" nor is it ridden with hardtimes and negativity.

With that said, personal choices matter but it's more than just personal choices. We are talking about aggregate effects here. But, I sense that I'm typing to a brick wall right now.

THANK YOU! This post is brilliant.

I'm sick of hearing people talk like black people are designed by nature to self-destruct!

People who have worked in very poor black communities have seen first hand the heartbreaking "conditioning process" that has lead to the way things are today...and whats sad is that its a cycle that will take some real work to stop.

[LatinaAlumna]

Originally Posted by xp2k

When you finished high school, were you equally as stupid as when you began?

Originally Posted by xp2k

als463 I hate to call names but you have quickly become the Elizabeth Hasslebeck of Greekchat.

I'm dead! __________________________________________________ __

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by da.kish

Aren't they designated to self destruct? The only reason this thread exists is because it is so unusual. The reality is MOST blacks will self destruct. Just look at the number of high school graduates in the black community vs white. We can also look at crime and single parent homes. You pick the category and blacks will be at the bottom.

Even in step shows, thanks to the ZTAs!!!!

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by da.kish

the blacks are bustin rhymes and humping bitches.

I know we're not supposed to feed this mofo, but I LOL'd at this.