Coakley vs. Brown

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by bignasty

Obamacare is doomed.

If Dems want health care they are going to have to get jobs like the rest of the planet. No free health care for all your illegitimate kids.

Hey I hate to break it to you, but quite a few democracies have some kind of universal health care or stricter health care regulation then we have. And of course all democrats in the USA are black, unemployed with a bunch of illegitimate kids.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by bignasty

How many of those countries have 40 million illegals and another 30 million legals that have no interest in working?

Do a little research. These socialist democracies have taken in a lot of foreign nationals including muslims fleeing persecution from regimes in their own countries. Have you been reading stories about the Dutch voting to outlaw minarets? How about the French having a little issue with fire bombings of their cars in Paris a couple years ago? We are not the only country that has a large number of immigrants looking for a better life in a richer, industrialized country. No, they aren't sharing a large border with one of these countries, but they are also much smaller countries, and they do provide healthcare and benefits to these people. I am very good friends with a Swedish couple who are often surprised at attitudes in this country, though, they do admit that a homogenous population like Sweden has experienced extensive growing pains from the number of immigrants they've accepted over the past 20 years.

BTW...neither of the plans passed by Congress would cover illegal immigrants. Even now, as Psi U stated, legal or illegal, anyone with or without money can receive care at an ER no questions asked. We are NOT allowed to refuse care. If the patient cannot pay, the tax payers are ALREADY paying for this care.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by bignasty

How many of those countries have 40 million illegals and another 30 million legals that have no interest in working?

What does this have to do with the inherent stupidity of a system based on employers paying for health care?

I mean, a huge number of those illegals HAVE JOBS . . .

[moe.ron]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

What does this have to do with the inherent stupidity of a system based on employers paying for health care?

I mean, a huge number of those illegals HAVE JOBS . . .

Why do you even bother?

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

What does this have to do with the inherent stupidity of a system based on employers paying for health care?

I mean, a huge number of those illegals HAVE JOBS . . .

Don't forget that a huge number of EMPLOYED people are UNINSURED as well.

Originally Posted by moe.ron

Why do you even bother?

It's hard to resist.. I get it. It's not just because of this clown though. It's because you hear this said in reality too and it's so incredibly frustrating to know that there are so many ignorant people in this world. I mean, there are elected officials who spout off this crap and everybody just believes them. They are so out of touch with reality that it's almost impossible to NOT give them a reality check.

The saddest case of "uninsured" I know is my old neighbor. She worked for a company for 29 years, got breast cancer while insured and employed full time. She was off work through her surgeries and chemo and survived (yay!). However, she was off work for longer than the 12 weeks allowed by FMLA. As a result, they cut her to part time which meant.. no health insurance. So, she has had to pay for all her follow up cancer treatments out of pocket. 29 years of loyalty to one company and that's what happened.

People do NOT stop to think that if they get really really sick, they lose their job and, therefore, they lose their health insurance right when they need it the most. This system is so messed up.