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Old 11-16-2009, 05:45 PM
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I feel like the kid is "special" on the side of so ridiculously smart that his parents don't know what to do with him and wonder if there was a mix-up in the nursery.

I like him. I'd raise him.
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:51 PM
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:00 PM
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I feel like the kid is "special" on the side of so ridiculously smart that his parents don't know what to do with him and wonder if there was a mix-up in the nursery.

I like him. I'd raise him.
Look at his shirt!

My mother said she stopped saying the Pledge in school; my grandparents had absolutely nothing to do with it. If she was able to pull that off on her own free will over 50 years ago, why is anyone surprised that a kid today--who tend to be much more informed about how the news and politics than most of us were at his age--would do the same thing?
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:05 PM
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Look at his shirt!

My mother said she stopped saying the Pledge in school; my grandparents had absolutely nothing to do with it. If she was able to pull that off on her own free will over 50 years ago, why is anyone surprised that a kid today--who tend to be much more informed about how the news and politics than most of us were at his age--would do the same thing?
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:15 PM
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I feel like the kid is "special" on the side of so ridiculously smart that his parents don't know what to do with him and wonder if there was a mix-up in the nursery.

I like him. I'd raise him.
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:41 AM
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This article says he skipped a grade, so he's likely precocious enough to figure it out on his own. The teacher was also a substitute so maybe unaware of his level of intelligence and the whole situation might have been different.

http://www.arktimes.com/articles/art...0-3823aa79c021
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:51 AM
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Look at his shirt!

My mother said she stopped saying the Pledge in school; my grandparents had absolutely nothing to do with it. If she was able to pull that off on her own free will over 50 years ago, why is anyone surprised that a kid today--who tend to be much more informed about how the news and politics than most of us were at his age--would do the same thing?
I'm sure some kids can and do put all of this together on their own (yay Dr. Phil ), but I've worked with lots of kids that age, and in my experience, gay rights simply isn't on the radar for most (any?) of them, much less translating that outrage about gay rights to protest by not saying the pledge. Granted, I'm in a part of the country where gay rights isn't that high profile an issue, but then again, so is this kid. Maybe I'm selling the kid short, but this just looks to me more like the kid picking up what he heard from mom and dad or somewhere else and running with it rather than completely putting it all together on his own. Not that that would be any different from how most kids that age start the process of forming opinions.
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Old 11-17-2009, 04:54 PM
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I have always told my students that they don't have to say the Pledge, but that they are not allowed to be disruptive or distracting to the other students.

Sub teacher should have called the parents and discussed it with them after the second day, if it was bothering her that much. As far as she knows, the student was playing the age-old game, "Let's act up for the sub teacher".

Student should have said something to mom and dad after the first day: "I don't want to stand for the Pledge; the sub says I have to; what should I do?" Sorry, but saying "Go jump in a lake" isn't the worst thing said, but is still disrespectful.

They were both in the wrong. It should not have went on for 4 days. Either one of them should have brought it up to the administration or parents to see how it could have been resolved.
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:25 PM
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I have always told my students that they don't have to say the Pledge, but that they are not allowed to be disruptive or distracting to the other students.
This.

I'm a sub, and I don't mind if the kids don't say the Pledge or sing the National Anthem. But they will stand, and they will NOT be disruptive to the students, because that is just a lack of respect.

The most disruptive students I've had during the Pledge/National Anthem time have been the military kids (but that is a different story lol)
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