Do you know other GLOs' secret info?

[Low C Sharp]

I have a feeling that if most people found out the rituals of GLO's, they'd be as bored to tears as if they were forced to go to someone else's church.

I don't find visiting other churches to be boring in the slightest! I am fascinated by the opportunity to observe religious rituals of many faiths, especially in foreign countries. There is a great deal to be learned there, even if you don't believe the spiritual aspects of the ritual.

For example, I've attended many Catholic masses, and of course I do not take communion. I'm sure that the experience of Mass is very different for someone who believes in transsubstantiation. But I get a great deal out of it nonetheless. It is literature, it is history, it is sociology, and it helps me to understand the people who ARE believers.

In fact, it seems a little sad to me that a college-educated person would have zero curiosity about literature, music, and poetry that mean a great deal to other people. Respecting privacy is great; I'm not saying anyone should seek out information that is meant only for members. But to really have no interest? If that's true, it's unfortunate IMHO.
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[tri deezy]

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

...But I get a great deal out of it nonetheless. It is literature, it is history, it is sociology, and it helps me to understand the people who ARE believers.

In fact, it seems a little sad to me that a college-educated person would have zero curiosity about literature, music, and poetry that mean a great deal to other people. Respecting privacy is great; I'm not saying anyone should seek out information that is meant only for members. But to really have no interest? If that's true, it's unfortunate IMHO.

I don't think it's true that people here have literally no interest. It almost bothers me when people say that other rituals would be meaningless or that they have no interest in others because it's like they're putting down other rituals. They mean well when they say it, of course, but it makes it sounds as if in their mind, other rituals are worthless. I also think that it's just rhetoric. I think that most people here probably have at least a tiny bit of curiosity about other GLOs rituals. Reading another ritual would not be meaningless at all- it would probably be pretty relatable to the reader and make the reader understand the roots of that org more. It would even probably give them more respect for and interest in the org. Just my two cents.

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by tri deezy

...It almost bothers me when people say that other rituals would be meaningless or that they have no interest in others because it's like they're putting down other rituals. They mean well when they say it, of course, but it makes it sounds as if in their mind, other rituals are worthless....

You're right. It was a poor choice of words to have said that the other org's ritual was meaningless to me. All I meant was what others have been saying throughout this thread - the emotion isn't there if it isn't your own ritual.

I have nothing but respect for the NPC I'm referring to, and I would never intentionally put down its ritual. I'm confident that knowing a bit of their secret info is nothing like experiencing the ritual itself. What I know is just words; the ladies of the org have the benefit of the ritual experience. I guess that's why I put the "it's meaningless to me" qualifier in there. Nonetheless, it was poor word choice and I apologize for offending anyone.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

In fact, it seems a little sad to me that a college-educated person would have zero curiosity about literature, music, and poetry that mean a great deal to other people. Respecting privacy is great; I'm not saying anyone should seek out information that is meant only for members. But to really have no interest? If that's true, it's unfortunate IMHO.

An interest is one thing. A need to read and study and try to truly understand a ritual that is private, and only means so much when written in a book, is another.

Originally Posted by tri deezy

I don't think it's true that people here have literally no interest. It almost bothers me when people say that other rituals would be meaningless or that they have no interest in others because it's like they're putting down other rituals. They mean well when they say it, of course, but it makes it sounds as if in their mind, other rituals are worthless. I also think that it's just rhetoric. I think that most people here probably have at least a tiny bit of curiosity about other GLOs rituals. Reading another ritual would not be meaningless at all- it would probably be pretty relatable to the reader and make the reader understand the roots of that org more. It would even probably give them more respect for and interest in the org. Just my two cents.

To say that the ritual has NO meaning when read by a non-member is probably an exaggeration. Obviously there can be SOME kind of a meaning found, and clearly there is one. I can acknowledge that as being fact for any Greek letter organization with a long and rich history. However, I don't feel the need to read through other GLOs' ritual books, because a) I'll never be there to experience the ceremonies, b) I probably won't bother to remember what was written anyway (seeing as it's not relevant to my life), and c) I have my own ritual by which I live.

Honestly, I probably would have been more curious before I joined a GLO to go looking through random ritual books than I am now (if I had ever even thought of doing such a thing). I find that non-Greeks tend to be a bit more curious because they know little to nothing about GLOs, and they wonder what goes on in ritual ceremonies of which they've never taken part.

[xomanadaxo]

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

I don't find visiting other churches to be boring in the slightest! I am fascinated by the opportunity to observe religious rituals of many faiths, especially in foreign countries. There is a great deal to be learned there, even if you don't believe the spiritual aspects of the ritual.

For example, I've attended many Catholic masses, and of course I do not take communion. I'm sure that the experience of Mass is very different for someone who believes in transsubstantiation. But I get a great deal out of it nonetheless. It is literature, it is history, it is sociology, and it helps me to understand the people who ARE believers.

I think the comparison of ritual to Catholic mass (or any other religious ritual) is very fitting. Simply reading it would not provide you the full effect, nor would being an observer at it (or listening through the door ) because you are not truly a part of it. You are not experiencing that ritual as a member who lives it out each day, so it does not have that aspect of meaning to it. That being said, you would still gain something from it. I like that Low C Sharp pointed out that it can help you understand the people who are believers...I think this is true for most rituals. Personally, I know that my ritual has shaped much of who I am today. I believe it is my duty as a member of my organization to embody the ideals set out in our ritual. Knowing that ritual might help you understand a bit more about me, and you might find some meaning/application of parts of it to your own life, but you would not get the full effect of it.

The true, indescribable meaning behind all ritual events is the real secret. That secret will remain safe, no matter who tries to divulge it, because it is so deeply personal. It's like trying to define love...you can tell someone what it is, even try to describe what it's like. But until they've truly been in love, they're not really going to understand it!

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by pshsx1

Yes! We also elected to change our motto to "Business in the front, party in the back" at the last Conclave.

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Did you have a new mascot as well? Maybe make Richard Dean Anderson as an honorary brother?

Their new president is Barry Manilow's manager, you know there is some super secret Copacabana dance party after eating Wendy's.

[moe.ron]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

Their new president is Barry Manilow's manager, you know there is some super secret Copacabana dance party after eating Wendy's.

Dang, the secret's out

[pshsx1]

Originally Posted by moe.ron

Dang, the secret's out

I'm sorry, I'll take the blame for that :/