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10-21-2009, 10:00 PM
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I agree, but you can't lump all certification programs together. Some aren't like you are describing.
You're right not all certified teachers are gonna be quality, just like all nurses (using 33girls example) are not all gonna be quality nurses. Besides, teachers always had to be certified to teach, this wasn't something new that NCLB did. NCLB just re-evaluated what it mean to be a "highly qualified teacher."
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NCLB changed the certification requirements for many school systems.
Interestingly enough, long before NCLB came into existence, my school system was making AYP. After NCLB, suddenly it became a struggle to make AYP. Yet we had all these certified teachers in the classrooms. I don't think this was unique to my school system either.
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10-22-2009, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by deepimpact2
NCLB changed the certification requirements for many school systems.
Interestingly enough, long before NCLB came into existence, my school system was making AYP. After NCLB, suddenly it became a struggle to make AYP. Yet we had all these certified teachers in the classrooms. I don't think this was unique to my school system either.
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Didn't NCLB invent AYP? I thought AYP referred to Adequate Yearly Progress toward the NCLB goals. What were you all using to determine AYP before NCLB? Are you talking about Title I measures?
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10-27-2009, 02:12 AM
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So of course unparented black kids act up and get in trouble more. Any racial group would do the same. The starting point for reducing our nation's youth violence must begin at home. We need our elected public officials to acknowledge this.
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What I'm rather unclear on is what is an "unparent" and how can anything begin at a home if there isn't one, especially when there has been a historical systematic destruction of one?
I just am trying to understand because sure, blaming unwed Black teen girls having sex and getting pregnant as the problem, but since folks are so against abortion and barely believe in contraception or how to pay for it and how exactly should abstinence work with these "unparented kids", um, would blanket-statements like simply saying home-training as a policy work?
I can't wait to hear Dr. Harris-Lacewell's take on this on Twitter
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10-27-2009, 08:14 PM
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Home training works for most. Instead of making excuses you should try it.
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huh?
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10-27-2009, 10:08 PM
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Good parenting works for most. Instead of making excuses you should try it.
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Jackass.
Who is "you"?
You're addressing someone with a doctorate, idiot.
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10-28-2009, 01:00 AM
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Jackass.
Who is "you"?
You're addressing someone with a doctorate, idiot.
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That's the least of asshat's worries. S/he/it is incapable of answering simple questions.
Anyhow, wassup with OU this year? And don't say the little QB hurting himself, cuz Game Day Football and Sports Nation follow me on Twitter. So, wassup?
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10-28-2009, 12:57 AM
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Good parenting works for most. Instead of making excuses you should try it.
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By your logic, I guess your parents failed then, huh?
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