Bashed by the school newspaper

[BadCat25]

I want to start this off by saying that Dartmouth was my dream school but I wasn't their dream applicant because they wait listed me and I ended up with my second choice university. That being said most of the comments on this thread inply that a) girls unhappy with their rush results should just shut the f**k up and b) the university should but out of the operation of the greek system and let the greeks do whatever they want. With respect to point a, at my university the school newspaper runs articles after every recruitment about how rush sucks. No matter how much we all want these articles to go away, they are not going to. We are just going to have to live with them and if they have valid points try to change the way we run rush. With respect to b, universities have a valid interest in the greek system and how it is run because to the extent the greek system contributes to a toxic social enviornment, the classic example is Vanderbilt, the university has a big interest in trying to change that because it does the university no good to have a large number of pissed off students, some of whom will just transfer out and bring down the graduation rate and no elite university wants that.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by BadCat25

With respect to b, universities have a valid interest in the greek system and how it is run because to the extent the greek system contributes to a toxic social enviornment, the classic example is Vanderbilt, the university has a big interest in trying to change that because it does the university no good to have a large number of pissed off students, some of whom will just transfer out and bring down the graduation rate and no elite university wants that.

And as I said...if the university interferes for good (or their interpretation of good) they will also end up interfering for bad. You can't have it both ways.

Honestly, the schools know that Panhellenic runs rush. These ARE NPC rules, made by alumnae with years and years of rush experience behind them, not capricious and arbitrary things that a bunch of college aged girls dreamed up while sitting around swilling beer - as some papers seem to imply. If the school doesn't want to deal with NPC's rules, then they need to kick the nationals off campus and go with an all-local system that they can manipulate however they want. Oh but wait - those locals wouldn't have the insurance behind them that the nationals do. Again, you simply cannot have it both ways.

[DartmouthPanhel]

Originally Posted by 33girl

If the school doesn't want to deal with NPC's rules, then they need to kick the nationals off campus and go with an all-local system that they can manipulate however they want. Oh but wait - those locals wouldn't have the insurance behind them that the nationals do. Again, you simply cannot have it both ways.

Let me first clarify that while our school newspaper and drama-loving student population may want to interfere and change recruitment, the school administration definitely doesn't. In my dealings, including weekly meetings with the Dean of the College, the head of Greek Letter Organizations, etc. they are nothing but supportive of how we do things. In fact, they are so pre-NPC that only national sororities are allowed to come to campus (our three locals can remain -- they are grandfathered in -- but no new locals).

However, in response to the insurance issue, our local groups are all insured through the college. The college has even extended that as an option to our national groups in risk management discussions with national HQs (when NHQ says "we would love to let you do X, but our insurance carrier won't allow it", the Office of Greek Letter Orgs tends to counter by offering to insure us).

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DartmouthPanhel

Let me first clarify that while our school newspaper and drama-loving student population may want to interfere and change recruitment, the school administration definitely doesn't. In my dealings, including weekly meetings with the Dean of the College, the head of Greek Letter Organizations, etc. they are nothing but supportive of how we do things. In fact, they are so pre-NPC that only national sororities are allowed to come to campus (our three locals can remain -- they are grandfathered in -- but no new locals).

However, in response to the insurance issue, our local groups are all insured through the college. The college has even extended that as an option to our national groups in risk management discussions with national HQs (when NHQ says "we would love to let you do X, but our insurance carrier won't allow it", the Office of Greek Letter Orgs tends to counter by offering to insure us).

I figured all that. I was responding more to the Bitter Betties who think that the school should somehow wring all the emotional ups and downs from rush/Greek life until it resembles a playdate between two highly medicated 1 year olds.