Bashed by the school newspaper

[DartmouthPanhel]

So, my school newspaper published this today in response to the end of our formal recruitment.

http://thedartmouth.com/2009/10/16/opinion/verbum/

I am an alumna, so I shouldn't be as upset by it, but I am.

How does one respond? The idea of doing an unstructured recruitment "like the fraternities" is unreasonable for so many reasons. All the women would go for the top two sororities, and then an even smaller percentage would end up with bids.

I'm going to bow out and let the current Panhellenic deal with it, but I am still so upset.

[Senusret I]

While Panhell blames those women for not completing the process “in good faith” — whatever that means — we believe that a system that only works for 67 percent of interested women needs to be fixed.

Bitches need to maximize their options, even I know that.

[ValpoKD]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Bitches need to maximize their options, even I know that.

Senusret I, this just made my morning. I laughed out loud because some days this is what I wish I could say!

[ISUKappa]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

While Panhell blames those women for not completing the process “in good faith” — whatever that means — we believe that a system that only works for 67 percent of interested women needs to be fixed.

Bitches need to maximize their options, even I know that.

REP!

(Another message board I frequent also uses vBulletin and they have the option of repping a post you like. Sometimes I think we need that here.)

[Jill1228]

Originally Posted by ISUKappa

REP!

(Another message board I frequent also uses vBulletin and they have the option of repping a post you like. Sometimes I think we need that here.)

Yup, I am on a board that has rep too. And this post would sure as hell get MAD rep from me!

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

[/I]Bitches need to maximize their options, even I know that.

For the win.

Seriously, I'd never respond to these types of things because the people writing them have no real clue what they're critiquing in terms of recruitment and won't really care or understand if you try to provide them with any actual information.

[jessica.lanelle]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Bitches need to maximize their options, even I know that.

Most awesome comment ever!

[als463]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

While Panhell blames those women for not completing the process “in good faith” — whatever that means — we believe that a system that only works for 67 percent of interested women needs to be fixed.

Bitches need to maximize their options, even I know that.

Thank you! You've finally said what many of us are thinking! This made me laugh out loud too (even though it was embarassing when the person next to me gave me a funny look when I did it).

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Bitches need to maximize their options, even I know that.

AMEN!

haha. It's the SAME lame people who don't know anything about the system who write these stupid opinion articles every year. They evidently also need to take a course in proper math because they didn't even subtract out the women who left the process on their own.

It cracks me up how pissed off this person is that they didn't 'fix the system' like it's something they could just do on their own as if they didn't belong to an umbrella organization that made all the rules.

[exlurker]

< when it comes to subject matter, kinda pulling off onto a frontage road here >

Just wondering if guys at Dartmouth who don't get bids from the house(s) they consider desirable are as upset as women who drop out of recrutiemnt seem to be? I'm guessing that the fraternities also are perceived to have tiers? And I can't imagine tha every guy gets a bid to the house he really would like to be in?`

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Bitches need to maximize their options, even I know that.

Bumping this thread, only for this line lol

[agzg]

I notice they don't have a comment section... hmmm.

I wonder who wrote that and what their experience with the NPC is.

Also, question: Does Dartmouth not COB? Or does the paper just not know about it? I can't imagine with a brand new chapter that ALL chapters are at total... but I could be wrong.

[Zillini]

I'm tired of the misleading stat of how many PNMs got Bids out of how many started Recruitment. Why is it the system's fault that some PNM had an "XYZ or nothing" mindset, then quit when they dropped her?

Also, if folks are going to use that stat as an argument in favor of changing to fraternity style Recruitment, then please provide some fraternity placement stats for an accurate comparison. How many guys actually get bids compared to the number who sign up for/attend Recruitment events? These critics seem to think fraternities go around slapping pins on everyone who was invited to/showed up for a Recruitment event.

It's also not just about Recruitment either. To be fair one needs to look at comparison stats on the number of pledges sororities and fraternities initiate out of the number of bids that were accepted. (Lane swerving, I'm no expert on fraternities so please correct me if I'm wrong.) Fraternities tend to view accepting a bid as only the beginning of the process for a new member to prove himself worthy of initiation. For sororities on the other hand, it is far less common for a pledge to have her pin pulled.

Neither system is better or worse than the other. Each has its own pro's and con's.

[Low C Sharp]

The news story in the same paper makes clear that the lower numbers were the result of dropouts, not cuts.

http://thedartmouth.com/2009/10/14/news/rush
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[missthing]

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

The news story in the same paper makes clear that the lower numbers were the result of dropouts, not cuts.

http://thedartmouth.com/2009/10/14/news/rush

So, if you take the 98 women who CHOSE to drop out from the numbers, you have 227 of the remaining 242 women receiving votes, about 94%. I notice they didn't use THAT stat anywhere though....