Obama has won a Nobel

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

too or two.

Hmmm...well being that the US is still suffering from the after effects of slavery and having to endure Civil Rights movement that only recently saw minorities making strides in posts ONLY held by majority White men, it's really not all that different.

Mandela simply was elected first as the first Black head of state of a White run country so I do not buy your argument that he won the award because of his color.

Ok I meant two, not too. And use this country is still recovering from slavery, but South Africa blacks were legally bared from holding office IIRC. Plus I never said that Obama won just because he was the first nonwhite president. I said it was likely a large factor. Oh slight tangent because this bugs me to no end, OBAMA IS NOT BLACK!! He is biracial, half black and half white, which no body seems to mention.

[I.A.S.K.]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Oh slight tangent because this bugs me to no end, OBAMA IS NOT BLACK!! He is biracial, half black and half white, which no body seems to mention.

L.O.L. Really?
You should tell PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA that he's not black. Clearly, he's misinformed.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

L.O.L. Really?
You should tell PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA that he's not black. Clearly, he's misinformed.

Actually, depending on the context, Obama is vocal about being biracial rather than Black. He would identify with being Black before being white (as most half Black-half white people would), but he's vocal about being biracial.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Oh slight tangent because this bugs me to no end, OBAMA IS NOT BLACK!! He is biracial, half black and half white, which no body seems to mention.

LOL! Only in post-Obama America can people suddenly pretend that a biracial Black man isn't Black. Even to the point of being so adament and angered about it.

Race is a social construction that is based on identifiability. We are not born with a "race," but are born with a genetic makeup and particular features. Obama can call himself whatever he wants to, and those of you who insist on biracialism can go with that. BUT many of us look at Obama and see just another Black man. A light skinned Black man with a round nose, and an Afro (now a salt n pepper fade). He has the features of the NONbiracial light skinned Black people that many of us have seen everyday of our lives...that many of us see when we look in the mirror...that many of us see in our families.

I say this public emphasis on biracialism is intentional and about change and inclusion. "I'm not that different from EVERYONE...EVERYONE can relate to me." Who knows how Obama really identifies and whether his private speech is different than the public emphasis that he places on being half white.

[I.A.S.K.]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Actually, depending on the context, Obama is vocal about being biracial rather than Black. He would identify with being Black before being white (as most half Black-half white people would), but he's vocal about being biracial.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

LOL! Only in post-Obama America can people suddenly pretend that a biracial Black man isn't Black. Even to the point of being so adament and angered about it.

Race is a social construction that is based on identifiability. We are not born with a "race," but are born with a genetic makeup and particular features. Obama can call himself whatever he wants to, and those of you who insist on biracialism can go with that. BUT many of us look at Obama and see just another Black man. A light skinned Black man with a round nose, and an Afro (now a salt n pepper fade). He has the features of the NONbiracial light skinned Black people that many of us have seen everyday of our lives...that many of us see when we look in the mirror...that many of us see in our families.

I say this public emphasis on biracialism is intentional and about change and inclusion. "I'm not that different from EVERYONE...EVERYONE can relate to me." Who knows how Obama really identifies and whether his private speech is different than the public emphasis that he places on being half white.

Well, you said it best so in response to your first quote I give you your second. I've NEVER heard President Barack Obama say "I'm NOT black I'm biracial." Since the two are not mutually exclusive he never has to and most likely never will. Barack Obama IS black and always will be.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

Well, you said it best so in response to your first quote I give you your second. I've NEVER heard President Barack Obama say "I'm NOT black I'm biracial." Since the two are not mutually exclusive he never has to and most likely never will. Barack Obama IS black and always will be.

Yeah. I have never heard him say that either. He calls himself a mutt, but he has never stopped anyone from calling him black or made a big deal out of it.

And on more than one occasion, Michelle has told a group of kids that her husband is the first BLACK president of the country. I really don't think she would be doing that if he didn't identify that way.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

I've NEVER heard President Barack Obama say "I'm NOT black I'm biracial."

Like I said, there are settings in which Obama is very vocal about biracialism as his primary identity rather than Black as his primary identity.