Parents and lawmakers speak out against Obama's speech to students

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I heard much of the speech today and I heard borderline socialist undertones. Any reference to things along the lines of (not verbatum) "help me to help this country" and "if you don't stay in school, you let down your country" are collectivism, which is good, but can detour into pseudosocialism if tax payers aren't conscious and critical at every turn.

... but this has been a risk since, well, the New Deal at the latest, and possibly decades before that, hasn't it?

The reality is that the US system has always integrated socialist/collectivist elements into its otherwise Federalist/Republic/Democratic nature.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

... but this has been a risk since, well, the New Deal at the latest, and possibly decades before that, hasn't it?

The reality is that the US system has always integrated socialist/collectivist elements into its otherwise Federalist/Republic/Democratic nature.

I think most people realize this. The problem is with going further down that path, particularly feeling as though we're being hoodwinked and bamboozled into doing so.