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08-12-2009, 05:55 PM
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why does she need to know which is which unless she plans on telling her daughter not to pledge the high ones?
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If so, what would be wrong with that? A high school senior should definitely inquire about the exact costs of the colleges she's considering, and it's her right to expect it. It is very common, and smart, to take into account the net cost of each college and to factor that into the decision-making process.
All of you who think it would be undesirable to consider costs when ranking sororities, do you also think it's wrong to consider costs when choosing a college? If not, why not?
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08-12-2009, 06:04 PM
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If so, what would be wrong with that? A high school senior should definitely inquire about the exact costs of the colleges she's considering, and it's her right to expect it. It is very common, and smart, to take into account the net cost of each college and to factor that into the decision-making process.
All of you who think it would be undesirable to consider costs when ranking sororities, do you also think it's wrong to consider costs when choosing a college? If not, why not?
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Recruitment functions MUCH differently than college accpetances.
That's a poor comparison.
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08-12-2009, 06:12 PM
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Recruitment functions MUCH differently than college accpetances.
That's a poor comparison.
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Yep. Most campuses use a system that makes it very hard for girls to cut groups. They just get to rank them low. The system is designed to yield one bid to each girl.
I think that each group should furnish information about lifetime estimated costs to each pledge before initiation and that a girl could justifiably chose not to be initiated into that group it if cost too much.
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08-12-2009, 06:23 PM
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Coming from a campus where girls WILL drop a chapter based on whether or not they can afford your dues, we make it very clear on philanthropy night what the dues are.
Dues should never be some huge chapter secret. A range that was published may not work if you have a cap of X amount and it really is important. Why even look at XYZ if all you can afford is LMN? And why should they look at you if you're not an option for them either?
I can not imagine a chapter NOT telling the PNMs what dues are. Most chapters (that I know of anyway) have new members sign papers saying they'll be financially responsible for dues if you are 18 or older and will face collection agencies if they do not (although apparently some have parents co-sign regardless  ). I'm wondering if girls at these chapters ever see those papers or if they only need a parent signature.
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08-12-2009, 06:27 PM
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Coming from a campus where girls WILL drop a chapter based on whether or not they can afford your dues, we make it very clear on philanthropy night what the dues are.
Dues should never be some huge chapter secret. A range that was published may not work if you have a cap of X amount and it really is important. Why even look at XYZ if all you can afford is LMN? And why should they look at you if you're not an option for them either?
I can not imagine a chapter NOT telling the members what dues are. Most chapters (that I know of anyway) have members sign papers saying they'll be financially responsible for dues if you are 18 or older and will face collection agencies if they do not (although apparently some have parents co-sign regardless  ). I'm wondering if girls at these chapters ever see those papers or if they only need a parent signature.
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The issue isn't that chapters don't tell members; it's how much information is given to potential members and how much they are able to act on it.
When you talk about girls dropping chapters, are you talking after bids are given out? If it's during recruitment, how do the PNMs cut chapters if they aren't invited back to more than the max?
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08-12-2009, 06:37 PM
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The issue isn't that chapters don't tell members; it's how much information is given to potential members and how much they are able to act on it.
When you talk about girls dropping chapters, are you talking after bids are given out? If it's during recruitment, how do the PNMs cut chapters if they aren't invited back to more than the max?
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I was referring specifically to the time during recruitment. (I thought I was clear-sorry for the mix up, it came out kinda funky). If a girl has the option, at my school she will definitely rank certain chapters lower based on what she can afford or drop out altogether and I really wouldn't blame her. If she can't pay for those she has left then there are no other options. Also, two of the more popular chapters are considerably less expensive than the ones that are not as popular. That doesn't help.
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08-12-2009, 06:54 PM
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I was referring specifically to the time during recruitment. (I thought I was clear-sorry for the mix up, it came out kinda funky). If a girl has the option, at my school she will definitely rank certain chapters lower based on what she can afford or drop out altogether and I really wouldn't blame her. If she can't pay for those she has left then there are no other options. Also, two of the more popular chapters are considerably less expensive than the ones that are not as popular. That doesn't help.
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There was nothing wrong with the way you said it; I just couldn't match up how it would work with the way PNMs do ranking.
And your other point about popular chapters being less expensive is one of the reasons why it would a hard thing to fix.
It is probably really healthy though for campus panhellenics to have have very specific disclosure sheets for well defined expenses so that PNMS can know they are comparing apples to apples and so that chapter can re-evaluate their spending if it's seriously out of whack.
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