Sarah Palin to resign as Alaska governor

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

As flawed as the Palins might be, what a crappy human being to do that to the whole other side of his child's family. What is he doing to his kid there?

As far as Sarah Palin's resignation, I really wonder what she's thinking. The only thing that makes sense is that she entirely intends to drop out of public life, but it's hard for me to really believe that's what she is doing.

For her to have succeeded at any other political level, finishing her term as Gov. really seems required, and I say that as someone who, as I remember it anyway, invested a lot of time defending her on GC. Flaking out now without a REALLY good reason seems to make her unsuitable for other posts.

ETA: I can't find a reputable source with any info on a federal indictment. All the stories seem to say, her resignation may be ahead of a federal indictment related to embezzlement charges that were first reported last summer, without any new information. It seems hard for me to believe that if there were something to the charges that it wouldn't have broken as story during the presidential race.

well I think there was the issue with her sis in law that was being probed

then...the senator that was being ousted

after that, the expenses that she spent on her trip.

I mean I could be wrong, but I do remember those things being brought up while the election was going on

[UGAalum94]

Oh yeah, right, my point wasn't that there were no investigations. My point was that if there was a big investigative shoe to drop, I think we would have heard of it by now. I'm not aware of any ongoing investigation right now and it seems like we would be.

ETA: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,7018263.story

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

her sis in law that was being probed

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

her sis in law that was being probed

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

her sis in law that was being probed

yuck, this isn't the TMI thread.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by 33girl

yuck, this isn't the TMI thread.

LOL

but 4 times?? HAHAH

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

well I think there was the issue with her sis in law that was being probed

Wasn't it the Baby Daddy's mother who was under investigation?

Whatever. Stranger things have happened in politics, and will happen in the future. If Tina Fey hadn't looked so much like her that people misquoted Sarah by using Tina's words, the whole tone would have been much different.

And there are already people who were interviewed for the Vanity Fair article who say they were misquoted or disregarded for not saying the PC thing. I would so love to see an agenda-free publication, if such a thing exists.

PS: If she did resign due to her kids, more power to her. Growing up in a political family is like playing hopscotch through a mine field.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by honeychile

Wasn't it the Baby Daddy's mother who was under investigation?

Whatever. Stranger things have happened in politics, and will happen in the future. If Tina Fey hadn't looked so much like her that people misquoted Sarah by using Tina's words, the whole tone would have been much different.

And there are already people who were interviewed for the Vanity Fair article who say they were misquoted or disregarded for not saying the PC thing. I would so love to see an agenda-free publication, if such a thing exists.

PS: If she did resign due to her kids, more power to her. Growing up in a political family is like playing hopscotch through a mine field.

Well yeah that too...but that wasn't until late last year and the least of Palin's problems.

As someone said, Palin in the media does seem to be a bit...interesting?

As far as her resigning due to her kids,(if this is a reason) I seem to recall asking that question last year when we first found out about her.

Exactly how does she plan on being a government official and be a mother and grandmother at the same time especially to a special needs child?

Who was going to parent all of the kids while she was running office?

Not to say that it couldn't be done,(these questions and doubts came up during the election of course) but her quitting now if it's for this cause seems to say that she wanted her family first and all else second and may prove some of her critics right that she was indeed not ready to run for office.

IF indeed this is a reason for her resignation then it's a backtrack when she believed that she could handle even being VEEP and a parent.

Suppose she was VP now and decided to resign? How would this look?

[Munchkin03]

According to the NYTimes, Sean Parnell is saying that Ms. Palin's resignation was related to the $500,000 in legal fees they're facing in regards to the alleged ethics violations:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/us...q=palin&st=cse

I still say, "stay tuned!"

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

According to the NYTimes, Sean Parnell is saying that Ms. Palin's resignation was related to the $500,000 in legal fees they're facing in regards to the alleged ethics violations:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/us...q=palin&st=cse

I still say, "stay tuned!"

??? Still doesn't make any sense.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

??? Still doesn't make any sense.

Nothing these people say ever makes any sense!

Like I said, "stay tuned." I'm sure this isn't the last we hear from these people.

[UGAalum94]

Even though not much came of the ethics investigation and there don't seem to be anymore pending, she does have the bills, but that doesn't really explain the resignation to me because with a book deal or whatever, I think she could take care of that pretty quickly.

I think that it was a mistake for her to resign if she intends to stay in politics as an elected official; it made me a whole lot less likely to vote for her. But I don't think that it means she would have resigned had she and McCain been successful. Some of the enduring negative press wouldn't be out there had they won since it's coming from McCain campaign staffers who wouldn't have as much interest in finding fault with her had they won.

I haven't worked up to reading the Vanity Fair piece yet, but it's interesting the snippets that you see in the press generally, and how much they just take the staffers' word, like the Todd Palin Alaska Party email. It's probably debatable whether the whole reason for the party's existence when T. Palin was a member was succession, but the staffer is assumed by the press at large apparently to be 100% correct in his response to her. His broader point may have been correct that it just would add fuel to the press's interest in the issue, but his rebuttal about the party itself is taken for granted as true. And I kind of wondered where he got off basically calling her a liar. How would he know why Todd cancelled his membership?

The dynamics are intended to make her look crazy, dishonest, and meddlesome, but I'm not sure that's the whole story.

Anyway, I'd actually kind of disappointed with her decision to resign in a way that surprises me, in terms of personally being kind of bummed out. I was always pretty pleased by what I knew about how she actually governed, and this decision kind of strips away why I actually found her deserving of support.

So now, unless she really does go away, we're left with the just the circus.

[starang21]

LMAO!

[VandalSquirrel]

An angle discussed today is that she's stepping down now to get her crap together for any future elections. A portion of that would be no family surprises in regards to teenage pregnancy, or being accused of bad parenting or neglecting her newest child who has Down's syndrome. That was an area where people made comments when she was running for VP, particularly about her family, so it is a plausible theory.

Alaska may be Republican overall, but there is a strong lean to Libertarianism. If there's a viable Libertarian or Democrat candidate, it wouldn't surprise me in the next election if the governor wasn't a Republican. The attitude is somewhat "do what you want, but don't screw up or embarrass us"

[UGAalum94]

Yeah, and that's why I got so frustrated with people who wanted to paint Palin as a theocrat. I don't think a conservative coming out of Alaska is going to think that everything that's a swell idea personally is something the government ought to do.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Yeah, and that's why I got so frustrated with people who wanted to paint Palin as a theocrat. I don't think a conservative coming out of Alaska is going to think that everything that's a swell idea personally is something the government ought to do.

My opinion is that she was one of the least Libertarian leaning in recent years. If she was representatively Libertarian the GOP wouldn't have been interested in her. Decisions she's made and other policies have religious leanings more than the general Alaskan population. A lot of people are living off the grid and don't want any government, but they don't vote so they aren't represented. The Libertarian streak is pretty prevalent in frontier areas like Montana, Alaska, and even in parts of Idaho.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

My opinion is that she was one of the least Libertarian leaning in recent years. If she was representatively Libertarian the GOP wouldn't have been interested in her. Decisions she's made and other policies have religious leanings more than the general Alaskan population. A lot of people are living off the grid and don't want any government, but they don't vote so they aren't represented. The Libertarian streak is pretty prevalent in frontier areas like Montana, Alaska, and even in parts of Idaho.

Show me where she made a political decision or took an action in office that seemed religious, please. There was a lot of talk, but very little that she seemed to actually try to effect, as far as I can tell, but I may have missed stuff.

Compared to Alaskans and real Libertarian party members, sure, she wouldn't be libertarian; compared to the average GOP politician in Georgia? That's what I was thinking about. She has faith that personally guides her, but I don't think there's much evidence that she expected to actually change policies for others based on that faith.