Jon and Kate Plus Eight

PM_Mama00 · #1 06-24-2009, 12:37 AM

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I haven't watched the episode yet, but I caught the last five or so minutes last night.

Was it my imagination, or did Jon get his ears pierced? I feel like Jon is having some sort of mid (quarter? third?) life crisis. It's like he woke up, suddenly realized he was thirtyish years old, married with eights kids and was like, "OH S%$." I feel like his behavior over the past or so months has been blatantly irresponsible and immature (especially if some of the stuff I've read in the last couple days is true......

), and I don't blame Kate for divorcing his sorry ass. Grow the hell up.

This whole situation is just disgusting. Those poor kids.

I find it funny that when a woman is in a verbally abusive relationship, everyone says to get out. Yet when it's a man getting verbally abused, it's still his fault.

If I was married to someone like Kate, I would have done the same thing. It's really unfortunate for the kids who have to go through it and suffer the most, but I've witnessed this same situation firsthand (minus the multiples) and either counseling or divorce is the best conclusion. I was hoping they'd get counseling and maybe work things out.

GPhiBLtColonel · #2 06-24-2009, 04:23 AM

I agree - why on earth did these two NOT go for counseling?

They really should have done that....I had to change the channel about half way thru the show - both seem really selfish to me....

Also, I hope the show is NOT returned from hiatus....I only watched it every now and then before and if it goes backon the air I will not watch it at all!

rhoyaltempest · #3 06-24-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

I find it funny that when a woman is in a verbally abusive relationship, everyone says to get out. Yet when it's a man getting verbally abused, it's still his fault.

If I was married to someone like Kate, I would have done the same thing. It's really unfortunate for the kids who have to go through it and suffer the most, but I've witnessed this same situation firsthand (minus the multiples) and either counseling or divorce is the best conclusion. I was hoping they'd get counseling and maybe work things out.

Kate might "verbally abuse" Jon but he will also voice his opinion and go back and forth with her when she is really getting on his nerves. I do not see him as a wimp or passive. Many verbal abuse relationships involve a domineering male and passive female that doesn't take up for herself and has low self-esteem. Surely these are not the same things and you know it.

epchick · #4 06-24-2009, 03:12 PM

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Kate might "verbally abuse" Jon but he will also voice his opinion and go back and forth with her when she is really getting on his nerves. I do not see him as a wimp or passive. Many verbal abuse relationships involve a domineering male and passive female that doesn't take up for herself and has low self-esteem. Surely these are not the same things and you know it.

I agree! Kate isn't blameless, don't get me wrong, but geezus its ridiculous to say that she was "verbally abusive." Get a grip! Jon stood up for himself time and time again (he did tell Kate to "remove the stick" in one episode). All we saw was 1 day out of the month in their lives. And of course this show was about showing the "kids" but each person had their own character, and Kate's was the "domineering" one....so they had to cast her in that light.

I also think its wrong to assume that they just decided to divorce without talking it out or do counseling or whatever. Like I said, the show doesn't film every day of their lives, so we don't really know what happens behind the camera lens. You all that are talking about "oh the kids will see everything when they are older" will be able to see Greekchat and how their parents were talked about here too.

ETA: So when is everyone gonna jump on the new sextuplet show??? If anyone is doing it for the money, they certainly are.

KSUViolet06 · #5 06-24-2009, 03:26 PM

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From what I've read and watched, Jon was always kind of aimless. Even when he and Kate started dating, he wasn't really doing anything and it seemed to me like Kate kind of made the relationship, marriage, and kids happen without really consulting with Jon. He was against having more kids after the twins!

I saw them on Oprah when the show was just kind of taking off, and they were talking about this (how he was really ok with just the twins). Oprah asked him if he was even just a little resentful of the fact that Kate wanted more kids and they ended up with 6, and he admitted that he was "for a little while" but he "got over it."

I'm thinking that he was probably more than just a resentful about it (more than he let on), but parental resentment doesn't make for warm and fuzzy TV.

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ETA: So when is everyone gonna jump on the new sextuplet show??? If anyone is doing it for the money, they certainly are.

I have tried to watch that one (the one on WE with the couple from AZ). I can't. They're annoying.

epchick · #6 06-24-2009, 03:42 PM

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I saw them on Oprah when the show was just kind of taking off, and they were talking about this (how he was really ok with just the twins). Oprah asked him if he was even just a little resentful of the fact that Kate wanted more kids and they ended up with 6, and he admitted that he was "for a little while" but he "got over it."

I'm thinking that he was porbably more than just a resentful about it (more than he let on), but parental resentment doesn't make for warm and fuzzy TV.

I understand that there is a big difference between having 1 kid and ending up with 6....but seriously, it does take 2 to tango (even if it was in a petri dish). The fact that they had to go through IUI to get pregnant makes it even more clear that Jon was fine with having another kid.

I think he's a pathetic human being. There is a difference between being resentful to Kate, and being resentful but saying "hey, I got 6 new kids, I love them and I can't imagine my life without them." I haven't seen Jon say the latter.

KSUViolet06 · #7 06-24-2009, 04:38 PM

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I understand that there is a big difference between having 1 kid and ending up with 6....but seriously, it does take 2 to tango (even if it was in a petri dish). The fact that they had to go through IUI to get pregnant makes it even more clear that Jon was fine with having another kid.

Yeah, but he admits that he has pretty much always gone along with what Kate wanted. So it probably didn't take "two to tango" in this case (so to speak). I mean, I'd imagine that she'd be pretty upset if she wanted another kid and he said no. He most likely didn't want to rock the boat.

Only problem with always allowing one person to make the decisions is that you eventually will get sick of it.

DreamfulSpirit · #8 06-24-2009, 06:39 PM

Jon's new gal to be on the show in August:

http://www.popeater.com/television/a...nd-kate/542110

I'm not sure if that's such a good idea....

AOEforme · #9 06-24-2009, 06:59 PM

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You all that are talking about "oh the kids will see everything when they are older" will be able to see Greekchat and how their parents were talked about here too.

Wouldn't it be ironic if one of the kids decided to rush in the far future, googled recruitment tips, and ended up here?

I don't know how long threads are kept around here, but who knows? It could happen....