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03-26-2009, 05:59 PM
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The language for the story running on MSN is significantly different. Interesting....
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03-26-2009, 06:08 PM
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The language for the story running on MSN is significantly different. Interesting....
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Forget the story....the video is damning all by itself.
and MSN is in bed with Fix News...so of course the language will be 'different'.
Just read it here (AP posted it) and they left out what else transpired (the mom dying after Moats made it in and etc) and other things....wow.
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03-27-2009, 08:40 AM
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Forget the story....the video is damning all by itself.
and MSN is in bed with Fix News...so of course the language will be 'different'.
Just read it here (AP posted it) and they left out what else transpired (the mom dying after Moats made it in and etc) and other things....wow. |
Haha, woah there...let's slow up the right wing media conspiracy train just a tad.
All of the MSN stories I saw were by the AP...so it looks like they were just using wire feeds as well, not their own writers.
It looks like what the officer did was wrong, and after the hearings and process is over, he should be out of a job.
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03-27-2009, 08:50 AM
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Haha, woah there...let's slow up the right wing media conspiracy train just a tad.
All of the MSN stories I saw were by the AP...so it looks like they were just using wire feeds as well, not their own writers.
It looks like what the officer did was wrong, and after the hearings and process is over, he should be out of a job.
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Yep...by a tad...and that's all is needed...
But again, I am not even concerned about the write up, the video IS the story.
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03-27-2009, 11:11 AM
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It looks like what the officer did was wrong, and after the hearings and process is over, he should be out of a job.
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I doubt it. Police officers routinely do much worse than act like douchebags. The detention was 100% legal. 13 minutes for a traffic stop where a warrant check is run doesn't sound horribly out of the ordinary. A police officer is not required to be sensitive and understanding of the reason someone committed a crime. Obviously, the officer was a complete, reprehensible asshole. This might be something which prevents him from being promoted, but as to the loss of his job? My guess is that he has to attend some sort of sensitivity training or something to that effect. I'd be really surprised if he lost his job.
I'm by no means excusing his behavior, it's just that I've seen police officers get away with much, much worse.
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03-27-2009, 11:15 AM
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I doubt it. Police officers routinely do much worse than act like douchebags. The detention was 100% legal. 13 minutes for a traffic stop where a warrant check is run doesn't sound horribly out of the ordinary. A police officer is not required to be sensitive and understanding of the reason someone committed a crime. Obviously, the officer was a complete, reprehensible asshole. This might be something which prevents him from being promoted, but as to the loss of his job? My guess is that he has to attend some sort of sensitivity training or something to that effect. I'd be really surprised if he lost his job.
I'm by no means excusing his behavior, it's just that I've seen police officers get away with much, much worse.
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Oh absolutely - when I say "should be out of a job," I mean in the sense that his behavior has no place on the police force. I wouldn't be surprised though if he got away with some slap on the wrist, though.
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03-27-2009, 11:20 AM
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and MSN is in bed with Fix News...so of course the language will be 'different'.
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Seriously? MSNBC is the polar opposite of Fox News. Not that I like either of them, but making ill-informed statements like that reeks of Tom Earp.
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03-27-2009, 11:40 AM
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Seriously? MSNBC is the polar opposite of Fox News. Not that I like either of them, but making ill-informed statements like that reeks of Tom Earp.
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No, not really, I wasn't.
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03-27-2009, 11:52 AM
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No, not really, I wasn't.
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How is MSN in bed with Fox News, exactly? I know MSN carries content from Fox Sports, but I didn't think there was a relationship between the news organizations.
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03-27-2009, 12:01 PM
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How is MSN in bed with Fox News, exactly? I know MSN carries content from Fox Sports, but I didn't think there was a relationship between the news organizations.
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That was the only connection, but again...I was not serious about the comment.
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03-27-2009, 11:43 AM
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I wouldn't get "due process" if I acted like that to a customer at my job. I'd be fired out-right. He's a public official who is a detriment to the city he works for and the citizens who pay his salary.
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Exactly. You work for a private employer, which can pretty much do what it wants to do within the bounds of its contract with you.
He, on the other hand, works for the government. (He is a public employee, not a public official). Under the United States Constitution (and I'm betting the Texas Constitution as well), the government cannot depive any citizen, including one that works for it, of property (including salary) without due process of law, which means at the least a fair hearing with an opportunity to be heard.
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03-27-2009, 11:50 PM
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Exactly. You work for a private employer, which can pretty much do what it wants to do within the bounds of its contract with you.
He, on the other hand, works for the government. (He is a public employee, not a public official). Under the United States Constitution (and I'm betting the Texas Constitution as well), the government cannot depive any citizen, including one that works for it, of property (including salary) without due process of law, which means at the least a fair hearing with an opportunity to be heard.
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officer=/=offical? either way, the man he stopped still has to pay taxes, and those taxes are being used to pay this guy, while he's on leave.
he is not charged with a crime (that i know of) so how does due process come in?
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