Thinking about starting a new fraternity on campus...Need advice

[PhiTauDeltaBeta]

Keep in mind that if you are worried by anti alcohol rules, you are very likely forming a fraternity for the wrong reasons.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by PhiTauDeltaBeta

Keep in mind that if you are worried by anti alcohol rules, you are very likely forming a fraternity for the wrong reasons.

Completely disagree with this statement.

He didn't say he was forming a fraternity just to party. He said he didn't like that under the policies of these 2 groups, they can't have alcohol in the house AT ALL - no matter if you are 21, you can't even have a beer with dinner. The majority of NIC fraternities do not have this rule.

[sagent19]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I think he means having them show up at rush parties as hostesses. Be very careful with this concept, if you get a rep before you're even established as snobbish and not wanting to socialize w/ the "lower" sororities, the girls will be ticked and your name will be mud. Ask women from ALL the sororities.

Question: if you don't like Theta Chi & Phi Delt's alcohol policies, why do you want to go with them? It seems counterproductive. It would be one thing if this was a specific value you espoused, but it seems to be something you see as a negative. You should look at other fraternities instead - you don't want to be fighting w/ your national from the moment you begin.

lol, well I actually have no problem with that policy b/c I don't drink myself (so that wouldnt be a issue for me). I was just wanting to know if that specific policy would make it harder to get people to join....

[sagent19]

Originally Posted by PhiTauDeltaBeta

Keep in mind that if you are worried by anti alcohol rules, you are very likely forming a fraternity for the wrong reasons.

lol, well not really because I don't drink at all as another post stated you can not have alcohol in the house at all at anytime even if you are 21(or even on the property outside).

So if you were the type of person that liked to drink beer, wine or anything with food you would have to go outside and sit on the sidewalk, another house, or to a restaurant

but as i said I don't drink at all so that is no problem for me

[sagent19]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Most national fraternities do NOT have a policy that bans alcohol completely from the house. Phi Delt and Theta Chi do, at least for new chapters.

He seems to be upset with that restriction, therefore I suggested he pursue a group that doesn't have it.

hey you were completely correct about the sororities thing I guess I didnt explain myself well enough. Of course there will be socializing with all but when I said main I basically meant the one with the most recognition and having the experience to put on social events.

Because I was thinking as a first event (not that all established) if we were to have a event with a lesser known one in the beginning the turnout would not be as great if we had the one everyone knows etc...

But of course as time goes on social events would NOT be limited to just one it would be all

**I am not "upset" I am just concerned about the fact that it can not be present in or on house property or at any event that displays the fraternities name**But with looking into it more I have decided to go with Beta Theta Pi

[sagent19]

Originally Posted by pshsx1

I'm not sure what national fraternity would have a pro-alcohol policy, though..

I friend of mine founded a Theta Chi colony a few years ago and it's now a strong thriving chapter with around 40 guys. It's at a fairly large school, so of course 40 isn't large, but they're doing what they can. You just have to really be committed and never lose that drive to be great.

Thanks for your reply I was really wanting one to be pro-alcohol but rather one that allowed you if you were of age to be resposible if you chose to maybe drink a beer or something in the house or even outside (which is prohibited)

I was just mainly concerned if maybe that would hurt recuritment chances, because the fraternity can not be apart of ANY social event that will have alcohol present

[Frenzy]

Me and 12 of my other friends started a new chapter in my school. We were kinda bored of the Greeks in our school and we did not liked how most of them portrayed themselves. So we wanted to start something of our own. Then a nationally recognized fraternity contacted us but soon we figured out that fraternity was banned from our school at 2002, and we figured this was all just another business to them. Then we found a new fraternity that a bunch of guys and gals started in UCONN Called Lambda Lambda Lambda or Tri-Lam. So we did all arrangements and Became the Beta chapter of Of this Fraternity. This is a Co-ed fraternity and a very diverse one too. Now there is 2 more chapters are begining to Form in Albany and in Illinoise.
If this is something you might be interested in for feel like I might be able to give you any tips let me know.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Frenzy

Me and 12 of my other friends started a new chapter in my school. We were kinda bored of the Greeks in our school and we did not liked how most of them portrayed themselves. So we wanted to start something of our own. Then a nationally recognized fraternity contacted us but soon we figured out that fraternity was banned from our school at 2002, and we figured this was all just another business to them. Then we found a new fraternity that a bunch of guys and gals started in UCONN Called Lambda Lambda Lambda or Tri-Lam. So we did all arrangements and Became the Beta chapter of Of this Fraternity. This is a Co-ed fraternity and a very diverse one too. Now there is 2 more chapters are begining to Form in Albany and in Illinoise.
If this is something you might be interested in for feel like I might be able to give you any tips let me know.

Based on the OP's posts, it seems like he is more interested in chartering an NIC fraternity on his campus.

[Frenzy]

yeah..its easier to be part of something that already being thought of. Its harder to be something new but its more fun and exciting. But U know a new chapter is another step for an organization to be nationally recognized.

http://trilambda.webs.com/expansion.htm

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Frenzy

yeah..its easier to be part of something that already being thought of. Its harder to be something new but its more fun and exciting. But U know a new chapter is another step for an organization to be nationally recognized.

http://trilambda.webs.com/expansion.htm

Yea, I've heard that spiel before. I was just pointing out that the OP expressed an interest in two large NIC organizations and brought up housing, so it's unlikely he will go for smaller, up-and-coming GLO.

ETA: BTW, if your chapter is the Beta chapter, then you are also becoming a part of something that's already been thought of.

[Frenzy]

Yes very true. But at least I can add onto the process and tradition of newer chapter and just not be another of many since I am Not tied By another American Corporation.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Frenzy

Yes very true. But at least I can add onto the process and tradition of newer chapter and just not be another of many since I am Not tied By another American Corporation.

If you say so. It's interesting that you're so familiar with how larger/national organizations operate, considering you're not a member of one.

But this isn't helping the OP. Do what you do.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by sagent19

lol, well I actually have no problem with that policy b/c I don't drink myself (so that wouldnt be a issue for me). I was just wanting to know if that specific policy would make it harder to get people to join....

It depends on your campus, honestly. Some places people will welcome that as an option and will like the idea of substance-free living...some places the complete opposite. You know your campus the best and how well it will go over.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by Frenzy

yeah..its easier to be part of something that already being thought of. Its harder to be something new but its more fun and exciting. But U know a new chapter is another step for an organization to be nationally recognized.

http://trilambda.webs.com/expansion.htm

Honest question -- did your "founders" purposely name themselves after the Revenge of the Nerds fraternity? Or are they too young to know that's the most recognizable link to "Tri-Lam"?

[knight_shadow]

^^^ They were founded in 2006, so they were probably too young to remember.