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Old 06-05-2001, 03:33 PM
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SilverTurtle,

I wouldn't place too much stock in what Consul_2k claims to know. I have two reasons for making this assertion:

1. Back in 1979 there was a doctoral dissertation written about fraternity rituals. I bought a copy of it while I was Pledge Educator of my chapter in order to try to better explain ritual without discussing ours. The student, Bobby McMinn, wrote to all 67 national and international fraternities and asked for copies of their ritual books to anonymously compare their content. Of those 67, 22 ACTUALLY sent him their book if you can believe that. He never states which fraternities did it, nor do I have any idea, but he does say the following: "Twenty fraternities do not print in their ritual manuals the meaning of their mottoes or passwords. Those devices are transmitted orally to the neophyte. (p. 121)" This strongly suggests that if 20/22 fraternities don't print some of their secrets, then probably almost all of the 67 fraternities follow the same pattern. This forces me to conclude that whatever Consul_2k may THINK he knows, it's probably not correct.

2. The title of Consul, as far as I know, is associated only with Sigma Chi. At least I've never heard of any other fraternity using that title in place of president, but I could very well be wrong in this. We have a chapter of Sigma Chi at my school and there are other chapters in the area as well. I'm certainly not going to make generalizations about the entire fraternity; I do have good friends who are Sigs. What does trouble me, though, is that the overwhelming majority of all Sigma Chis I've ever met have been arrogant and assumed themselves and their fraternity to be better than everyone else. From the mouth of a Sig himself, I was told that Sigma Chi pledges are taught that since their badge is the "white cross of sigma chi," that it is more glorious and meaningful than any insignia any other fraternity may adopt because of "him of whom our badge reminds us." Just because Sigma Chi is the only fraternity with a cross-shaped badge does not make them the only fraternity with ideals of that calibre. Between this tendency for many (NOT ALL!) people to let statements like this get to their heads and the obvious bias of any Greek to the ritual of their own glo over another, I'm not a bit surprised that Consul_2k thinks "some [are] just logically better."
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:09 PM
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Just because Sigma Chi is the only fraternity with a cross-shaped badge does not make them the only fraternity with ideals of that calibre.
For accuracy: Sigma Pi's badge is also in the shape of a cross:



Oh, and where did you dig up this old fossil of a thread?
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:11 PM
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Gentlemen, gentlemen! Don't you know that size doesn't matter?
You know you like them big you dirty hooker.
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You know you like them big you dirty hooker.
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For accuracy: Sigma Pi's badge is also in the shape of a cross
So is ATO's.
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