Recruitment as a sophomore//gossiping

[LucyAnne17]

Originally Posted by BaltoAlphaPsi

maybe our chapter is just under that impression..... I just thought that there was a lot of red tape to not allow in a legacy.

I think it depends on your chapter. I know that my organization has rules about inviting legacies back to a certain number of recruitment parties, but we can cut them...although my particular chapter has never cut a legacy. We have tried on more than one occasion, but the advisers basically say that unless we have "a damn good reason to ruin a family's perception of our organization" we're not allowed.

I personally think this rule sucks, because sometimes the legacies just don't fit in. Its not our fault or theirs.

*sorry for the hijack btw

[brokengymnast75]

Originally Posted by AXOrushadvisor

I fight hard for legacies because I personally feel like they make better members especially women who have an involved relative. They know what is expected in terms of behavior and service. Good luck to you. I hope recruitment turns out better for you this next time.

Thank you. My roommate is currently going through COB and does not know anything about sororities. She is angry with the many rules and what is expected of her. I felt that it was slightly unfair that she's getting an "in" since she befriended a couple girls from a sorority, even though she doesn't know what she is getting into.

However there isn't anything that I can do until next fall.

[apres_moi]

Delta Phi Epsilon does not have to accept a legacy. There are rules about releasing legacies, but as stated in their Legacy Policy, which came in the Spring 2009 packet which every chapter should have got, it is ultimately up to the individual chapter.

[Zillini]

ADPi allows a legacy to be cut. The biggest reason this policy was changed years ago was due to some campuses having a flood of legacies going through recruitment. Typically at Bama we have almost as many legacy PNMs go through as quota. How fair would it be to have an entire pledge class of only legacies?

It also used to be policy that if a legacy was cut mom, grandma, sis, etc. had to be called. That's changed too and personally I'm happy about it. I understand moms' frustration over this change, which has been in place for many years and is published in our Inat'l magazine every year. We simply don't have the time to make that many phone calls. Plus those calls were very unpleasant to say the least.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by brokengymnast75

Thank you. My roommate is currently going through COB and does not know anything about sororities. She is angry with the many rules and what is expected of her. I felt that it was slightly unfair that she's getting an "in" since she befriended a couple girls from a sorority, even though she doesn't know what she is getting into.

However there isn't anything that I can do until next fall.

I'm confused. You're mad because your roommate, who knows very little about sororities, is getting a bid because she made friends in a chapter?

Besides this being how my Greek experience started, I don't understand why this is so bad... unless I'm missing something...

[ISUKappa]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

I'm confused. You're mad because your roommate, who knows very little about sororities, is getting a bid because she made friends in a chapter?

Besides this being how my Greek experience started, I don't understand why this is so bad... unless I'm missing something...

If I'm reading into it correctly, I think she's frustrated because, as a legacy, she knows there are rules you have to follow as a member of a sorority: mandatory meetings, philanthropy, study hours etc... and her roommate is annoyed about those rules. Plus, she [brokengymnast] put in the effort to go through formal recruitment and did not get a bid while her roommate "has an in" through being friends with a few women. Granted, that's how informal recruitment generally works, but I can see how it can seem "unfair" to someone who went through formal.

[gee_ess]

Originally Posted by Thetagirl218

Same here. Going into recruitment we knew if PNMs were legacies to us and to other chapters on campus.

I agree with another poster who notes that if your campus uses ICS computer system for recruitment, the sororities are not given the legacy info that does not pertain to their house.

XYZ will be given a file that shows which PNM's list any relationship with XYZ but no others.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by ISUKappa

If I'm reading into it correctly, I think she's frustrated because, as a legacy, she knows there are rules you have to follow as a member of a sorority: mandatory meetings, philanthropy, study hours etc... and her roommate is annoyed about those rules. Plus, she [brokengymnast] put in the effort to go through formal recruitment and did not get a bid while her roommate "has an in" through being friends with a few women. Granted, that's how informal recruitment generally works, but I can see how it can seem "unfair" to someone who went through formal.

Ok, that would make a little more sense. Thanks.

[GammaPhi88]

Originally Posted by gee_ess

I agree with another poster who notes that if your campus uses ICS computer system for recruitment, the sororities are not given the legacy info that does not pertain to their house.

XYZ will be given a file that shows which PNM's list any relationship with XYZ but no others.

My campus uses ICS, and I remember knowing who our legacies were, but not anyone else's. I only knew if a girl was a legacy if she told me, or if the fact that she was a legacy was thrown around campus.

I would suggest that the OP try to find out from Panhellenic which computer system is used; or at least if other chapters that she isn't a legacy to will know her legacy status. If it is the case that everyone will know her legacy status, I suggest that she not list it and have her mom send in a legacy introduction form to the chapter. I know that my GLO has those; and I believe that most others do, correct me if I'm wrong.

[lyrelyre]

Originally Posted by gee_ess

I agree with another poster who notes that if your campus uses ICS computer system for recruitment, the sororities are not given the legacy info that does not pertain to their house.

XYZ will be given a file that shows which PNM's list any relationship with XYZ but no others.

This varies from campus to campus. There is a setting that allows every chapter to see if a PNM lists a legacy chapter. There is also a setting that allows only the PNM's legacy chapter to see that information. If in doubt, I would suggest not listing legacy status on your application. You can always have legacy information sent directly to the specific chapter. However, you should also know that alumnae who write recommendations often will list your legacy status if they are aware of it.

[jwright25]

Originally Posted by lyrelyre

This varies from campus to campus. There is a setting that allows every chapter to see if a PNM lists a legacy chapter. There is also a setting that allows only the PNM's legacy chapter to see that information. If in doubt, I would suggest not listing legacy status on your application. You can always have legacy information sent directly to the specific chapter. However, you should also know that alumnae who write recommendations often will list your legacy status if they are aware of it.

YES.

I have worked with more than one campus that shows all legacy information to all chapters. And more than one campus that does not. The computer system does not make the determination, the campus does.

[gee_ess]

Originally Posted by jwright25

YES.

I have worked with more than one campus that shows all legacy information to all chapters. And more than one campus that does not. The computer system does not make the determination, the campus does.

Good to know...I was not aware that the campus made the distinction.

[brokengymnast75]

Originally Posted by ISUKappa

If I'm reading into it correctly, I think she's frustrated because, as a legacy, she knows there are rules you have to follow as a member of a sorority: mandatory meetings, philanthropy, study hours etc... and her roommate is annoyed about those rules. Plus, she [brokengymnast] put in the effort to go through formal recruitment and did not get a bid while her roommate "has an in" through being friends with a few women. Granted, that's how informal recruitment generally works, but I can see how it can seem "unfair" to someone who went through formal.

Yes, that is exactly how I feel. Thank you for clarifying that.

[brokengymnast75]

Originally Posted by lyrelyre

However, you should also know that alumnae who write recommendations often will list your legacy status if they are aware of it.

This is probably the way all of the other sororities found out if the chapters can not see my legacy status. I had recommendations to all of the sororities, and all of them were contacted through my mom. They all know my mom through sorority work, so therefore they would know of my legacy status.

Thank you for that information!

[true_blue]

On our campus we use ICS and we can see all legacy info. for all chapters. This includes NPC groups that are listed by the PNM that do not have chapters on our campus. This year alone I think we had 5 KD, and 4 KKG legacies! It makes me wish they had a chance to join their legacy group.