As if you weren't already sick of the quota questions....

[UofISigKap]

There is talk about snapping up or COR to quota and/or total, but what about the chapters who are above total? I'm wondering if the "no shows" can cause number problems with chapters who are still over total after the no shows are removed? (I'm pretty sure I know the answer, but please correct me if I'm wrong.)

For example, let's say total is 100, and a chapter has 85 before recruitment. The quota is set at 25. By matching quota w/ 25, the chapter should now at 110. Wh00t, above total, great! However, let's say for whatever reason 10 women decide to not pick up their bids and walk away, dropping the NM class to 15 women. Because the chapter size is actually at the total mark of 100 with the 15 new members, the chapter can't fill the now open 10 spots with women who would want to be a member, right?

If I'm indeed right, I think this really stresses the importance of "don't write down a chapter unless you are willing to take a bid from that chapter and even try it out." After all, how aggravating to a chapter since their quota matched class now only took 3/5 of what they could have! Also, I could see the new members wondering what happened if they look around and see their chapter only has 15 new members, but others have 25.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by UofISigKap

If I'm indeed right, I think this really stresses the importance of "don't write down a chapter unless you are willing to take a bid from that chapter and even try it out." After all, how aggravating to a chapter since their quota matched class now only took 3/5 of what they could have! Also, I could see the new members wondering what happened if they look around and see their chapter only has 15 new members, but others have 25.

Yeah from a sorority member perspective, this would be pretty annoying.

I think the "don't write down a chapter unless you're willing to take a bid" also has moreso has to do with the PNM being unable to rush for a year (whether she joins or not). If you're going to be bound to a sorority, you shouldn't list one that you wouldn't want to be in.

[UofISigKap]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Yeah from a sorority member perspective, this would be pretty annoying.

I think the "don't write down a chapter unless you're willing to take a bid" also has moreso has to do with the PNM being unable to rush for a year (whether she joins or not). If you're going to be bound to a sorority, you shouldn't list one that you wouldn't want to be in.

Exactly. List only houses you would be willing to become a member of. The fact a PNM is bound for a year is just one of the good reasons to really think about the choice. I wasn't trying to be "waaaaah, it's so hard for sorority members," but more bring up the fact the bid card (in conjunction with quota/total) affects a lot of women in the process: the PNM, the chapter, other women who may REALLY want that chapter...

[KappaKittyCat]

Originally Posted by UofISigKap

There is talk about snapping up or COR to quota and/or total, but what about the chapters who are above total? I'm wondering if the "no shows" can cause number problems with chapters who are still over total after the no shows are removed? (I'm pretty sure I know the answer, but please correct me if I'm wrong.)

For example, let's say total is 100, and a chapter has 85 before recruitment. The quota is set at 25. By matching quota w/ 25, the chapter should now at 110. Wh00t, above total, great! However, let's say for whatever reason 10 women decide to not pick up their bids and walk away, dropping the NM class to 15 women. Because the chapter size is actually at the total mark of 100 with the 15 new members, the chapter can't fill the now open 10 spots with women who would want to be a member, right?

It is my understanding that immediately following Formal Recruitment, every chapter is entitled to Snap or COR to quota, regardless of whether that would put them above total. If their pre-recruitment numbers + quota still doesn't equal total, then they're entitled to COR to total after Formal Recruitment. Where total really comes into play is during non-Formal-Recruitment semesters, when you may only COR to total.

So if total's this huge, pie-in-the-sky number like it is at my alma mater, then nobody ever hits total with Formal Recruitment and everybody's CORing constantly. But if you reliably match quota and Formal Recruitment always puts you above total, like at the chapter I currently advise, then you don't continue to COR after Formal Recruitment is over.

[AlphaXi_Husky]

Originally Posted by KappaKittyCat

It is my understanding that immediately following Formal Recruitment, every chapter is entitled to Snap or COR to quota, regardless of whether that would put them above total. If their pre-recruitment numbers + quota still doesn't equal total, then they're entitled to COR to total after Formal Recruitment.

This is my understanding as well.