Elderly man freezes to death in home

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by madmax

No. That is the difference between us. You will probably be sitting around your crib in da hood waiting for Obama to turn on your electric while I am out working to pay my bills and yours.


holla

Go fuck yourself you ignorant @ss bastid.

"holla"


Funny thing about the hood....lil jack@sses like you wouldn't last.

You would be running back to mama and daddy first chance you get 'cuz 'they' look at you funny.

[SWTXBelle]

What's going to happen in all those places who are without power, and are expected to be without power for some time, due to the storm??

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

What's going to happen in all those places who are without power, and are expected to be without power for some time, due to the storm??

I know that many communities have emergency plans in place, and those who cannot survive that situation are brought to temporary/emergency shelters (high school gyms, church basements, so on).

[aggieAXO]

This is why I well never leave the south, I hate being cold. I keep my apt about 70 during the day and 74 at night. I just visited a friend in Durango Co and she had the thermostat set in the 50's-I was so uncomfortable i could barely sleep. If it is less than 40 degrees outside I will not go out (unless i gotta go to work).

[AGDee]

The truth of the matter is, aggie, your body does experience physiological changes that help you deal with the cold. At the beginning of winter, 25 degrees feels really cold. By this time of winter, 25 feels balmy outside because we've adjusted to temps between 0-15. Besides that, we dress for the cold. We wear layers and coats and gloves and hats. Most of us would have a hard time sleeping if it was in the 50's in our homes, trust me! We don't spend a lot of time outside in the winter. However, I can honestly say that if the outside temp is over 85, I find it extremely uncomfortable and don't want to be outside at those times either!

One of my best friends from high school moved to Texas for several years. She said "It's not that different from living in Michigan. In Michigan, we don't go outside much for about 3 months due to cold. In Texas, we don't go outside much for about 3 months due to the 100 degree heat. The difference is, during those three months in Michigan, the kids are in school. In Texas, it's summer and the kids are stir crazy in the house!" She's back in Michigan now!

[Munchkin03]

Did anyone hear that his family finally surfaced, and are angry at the utility company? One of his nephews is all, "we hadn't spoken in a year." He also observed that his uncle had his bill envelopes filled with the correct amount of cash for each bill.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Did anyone hear that his family finally surfaced, and are angry at the utility company? One of his nephews is all, "we hadn't spoken in a year." He also observed that his uncle had his bill envelopes filled with the correct amount of cash for each bill.

Some excerpts in an updated article:

One of the saddest things of all was that Schur appeared to have plenty of money, and, in fact, one of the neighbours who entered the home reported seeing cash clipped to a pile of bills on the kitchen table. Schur's nephew suggested the old man's mind may have been slipping.


City Electric Light & Power did not contact Schur face-to-face to notify him of the device and explain how it works, instead following its usual policy by leaving a note on the door. But neighbours said Schur rarely, if ever, left the house in the cold.



The medical examiner is looking into whether Schur suffered from dementia, particularly after police found enough cash lying around in the home to cover his bills. His nephew William Walworth said Schur told him two years ago he had $600,000 in savings.



Michigan's big, state-regulated utilities are not allowed to shut off power to senior citizens in the winter and must offer payment plans to the poor. State regulators also discourage the use of limiters. But Michigan's 41 smaller municipal utilities - Bay City's included - are not overseen by the state.

Link

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Did anyone hear that his family finally surfaced, and are angry at the utility company? One of his nephews is all, "we hadn't spoken in a year." He also observed that his uncle had his bill envelopes filled with the correct amount of cash for each bill.

It makes it especially heartbreaking to me to know he had the money. ETA: I'm not sure why knowing that it was simply his mental faculties slipping is sadder to me, but it is. This was so preventable on so many different levels.

There's no way that it's the power companies fault in my mind since they aren't in the social services business and it would be inappropriate to expect them to come to people's homes to collect bills every month. Someone should have helped this guy if not the nephew, someone in the community.

If it turns out he really did have 600,000 in savings and the nephew gets it. . . .argh.

[SWTXBelle]

http://parispi.net/articles/2009/01/...c242233072.txt


eta - Greek connection - Murray State University is now closed.

[madmax]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Go fuck yourself you ignorant @ss bastid.

"holla"


Funny thing about the hood....lil jack@sses like you wouldn't last.

You would be running back to mama and daddy first chance you get 'cuz 'they' look at you funny.

The reality is most people in society can make it in the hood and some of them even came from the hood. It is the people in your hood that can't make it in society, where you have to work, and be responsible. In your neighborhood most people don't even take care of their own kids.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by madmax

Not true.

The reality is most people in society can make it in the hood and some of them even came from the hood. It is the people in your hood that can't make it in society, where you have to work, and be responsible. In your neighborhood most people don't even take care of their own kids.

I guess you think you would know all about where I am from, right?

Think you can tell me all about all the people who failed and are drug addicts and gone to jail and baby makers huh?


Hehe....you've been watching a lil' too much of The Wire if you think you are an expert to tell me about MY life and where I am from.

You think you are so right, read Job.

Lot of people don't survive falls like that.

Must be of some comfort to you to have that keyboard and a monitor separating us, eh?


Go find somewhere else to play, I'm not in the mood to take up anymore time with people's grown up stupid assed cowardly children.