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Old 01-26-2009, 10:20 PM
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Bumper sticker logic...

To be honest, the man won the vote and he has been inaugurated. This is all water under the bridge. How can we all let it go and move on to solve some major issues occurring in this country, like jobs...

So what if some voted one way or another for whatever reason when they got into the voting booth? Who cares, really? If there was a major discrepancy, believe me, Obama would NOT be inaugurated as president... In fact, he has shown to support ethics more than anything else and to play by the book. Would McSame done the same thing? Would Billary? So the reality is, the one who's holding the pen forms the opinions into laws...

Or the Golden Rule, the one with the gold, rules... Or there is no Justice, only just us... Or no Christ, no peace... Know Christ, know peace...
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:25 PM
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To be honest, the man won the vote and he has been inaugurated. This is all water under the bridge. How can we all it go and move on to solve some major issues occurring in this country, like jobs...

So what if some voted one way or another for whatever reason that got them behind the voting booth? Who cares, really? If there was a major discrepancy, believe me, Obama would NOT be inaugurated as president... In fact, he has shown to support ethics more than anything else and play by the book. Would McSame done the same thing? Would Billary? So the reality is, the one's who hold the pen's forms the opinions...

Or the Golden Rule, the one with the gold, rules... Or there is no Justice, only just us... Or no Christ, no peace... Know Christ, know peace...
Huh?
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:28 PM
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I hope you aren't serious.
I hope he is.

There is nothing wrong with more objectively putting the Republican and Democratic parties side-by-side and seeing what has been accomplished that benefits blacks.

If more people did this, there would be much less party loyalty and much more politicians sweating to keep the votes of their constituencies.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:51 PM
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I hope he is.

There is nothing wrong with more objectively putting the Republican and Democratic parties side-by-side and seeing what has been accomplished that benefits blacks.

If more people did this, there would be much less party loyalty and much more politicians sweating to keep the votes of their constituencies.
If you think this hasn't already been done over and over again, you clearly have been living with your head in the sand. I'm kind of puzzled that you actually suggest this as if it is a novel, ground-breaking idea.

Neither party is going to be EXACTLY what ANYONE wants...black, white, whatever. However, in picking the lesser of the two evils, most blacks feel that the Democratic party meets their needs much better.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:58 PM
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Neither party is going to be EXACTLY what ANYONE wants...black, white, whatever. However, in picking the lesser of the two evils, most blacks feel that the Democratic party meets their needs much better.
You do realize that this statement isn't the same thing as saying that Democrats have done "more" for blacks, right? Perception not always being reality, and all that.

Maybe they have, maybe they haven't (it really depends on the time period you're referring to, the different factions of the parties, etc.)...but it's a bit of a leap to simply assume that it's the case, or to state as such without laying out the reasons for that decision.

ETA: If you look back through your arguments, is it possible you're the one with your head in the sand? Just wondering.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:59 PM
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If you think this hasn't already been done over and over again...snark attempt....
It hasn't.

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Neither party is going to be EXACTLY what ANYONE wants...black, white, whatever.
Correct.

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However, in picking the lesser of the two evils, most blacks feel that the Democratic party meets their needs much better.
Finding a "lesser of the two evils" isn't worthy of party loyalty. If the Dem party is also an "evil" then blacks need to call the Dems to task. And they haven't.
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:03 PM
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You do realize that this statement isn't the same thing as saying that Democrats have done "more" for blacks, right? Perception not always being reality, and all that.
Right and perception is conducive to selective observation, which is why the worth of the Democratic party has not been more objectively assessed.
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:35 PM
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What's the point of all of this re-analysis of history?
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:39 PM
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What's the point of all of this re-analysis of history?
A comment was made about why black voters vote Democrat - the discussion kind of took off from there.
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:46 PM
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What's the point of all of this re-analysis of history?
1. history is always relevant
2. history repeats itself
3. polling and data collection agencies haven't released all of the data on this election
4. The relationship between race and Bipartisan politics didn't begin or end with this election.

All of these are why political scientists and sociologists are still writing editorial pieces and articles about various aspects of this election.
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:53 PM
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A comment was made about why black voters vote Democrat - the discussion kind of took off from there.
Oh I thought she could see that much. LOL.
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Old 01-27-2009, 12:06 AM
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Oh I thought she could see that much. LOL.
Sorry, I'm a little too literal sometimes...haha.
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Old 01-27-2009, 12:07 AM
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A comment was made about why black voters vote Democrat - the discussion kind of took off from there.
Thanks.
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Old 01-27-2009, 12:08 AM
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1. history is always relevant
2. history repeats itself
3. polling and data collection agencies haven't released all of the data on this election
4. The relationship between race and Bipartisan politics didn't begin or end with this election.

All of these are why political scientists and sociologists are still writing editorial pieces and articles about various aspects of this election.
Will any of this pay my light bill?
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Old 01-27-2009, 12:09 AM
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Will any of this pay my light bill?
Maybe but if not you can always stop clicking on this thread.
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