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01-23-2009, 07:46 PM
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I'm glad too. What about the Native peoples of that region? Surely they have a right to government documents in their own language.
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Tribes are sovereign entities. It doesn't matter what the Nashville City Code says. How did you even think this measure could ever possibly affect tribal government?
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01-23-2009, 09:16 PM
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Tribes are sovereign entities. It doesn't matter what the Nashville City Code says. How did you even think this measure could ever possibly affect tribal government?
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Off topic but I've been wondering. Do Native Americans vote in presidential or other elections? I know that they usually have their own governing body and police but I always wondered about voting.
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01-24-2009, 10:35 AM
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Tribes are sovereign entities. It doesn't matter what the Nashville City Code says. How did you even think this measure could ever possibly affect tribal government?
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They are not confined to the reservation. Could get a speeding ticket. If the ticket is only English, that could cause problems.
It doesn't affect tribal government, it affects tribal interactions with the city
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01-24-2009, 11:14 AM
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They are not confined to the reservation. Could get a speeding ticket. If the ticket is only English, that could cause problems.
It doesn't affect tribal government, it affects tribal interactions with the city
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I know a LOT of N.A.s. the number of folks who only speak the tribal languages are either so few in number as to be an insignificant category or they simply don't exist. Many moons ago, the great white father mandated that Indian children be placed in government schools and forbidden from learning or speaking their native tongues. This resulted in a massive decline in the number of people who knew the tribal languages. Some still managed to learn it on the down low -- something which was very useful to us in WWII if you recall.
At any rate, no, troopers don't have to carry around a traffic violation pad in every local Native language. It'd be no different than giving a traffic ticket to a non-English speaking Persian person.
As far as other tribal interactions with the city, the tribes are sovereigns. They don't really interact much with municipalities. Most interactions go through the Bureau of Indian Affairs I would think.
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01-24-2009, 12:20 PM
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At any rate, no, troopers don't have to carry around a traffic violation pad in every local Native language. It'd be no different than giving a traffic ticket to a non-English speaking Persian person.
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LOL. Wouldn't that be something? " Shit, the one day I leave my Swahili citation pad at home....."
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01-24-2009, 05:33 PM
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I know a LOT of N.A.s. the number of folks who only speak the tribal languages are either so few in number as to be an insignificant category or they simply don't exist. Many moons ago, the great white father mandated that Indian children be placed in government schools and forbidden from learning or speaking their native tongues. This resulted in a massive decline in the number of people who knew the tribal languages. Some still managed to learn it on the down low -- something which was very useful to us in WWII if you recall.
At any rate, no, troopers don't have to carry around a traffic violation pad in every local Native language. It'd be no different than giving a traffic ticket to a non-English speaking Persian person.
As far as other tribal interactions with the city, the tribes are sovereigns. They don't really interact much with municipalities. Most interactions go through the Bureau of Indian Affairs I would think.
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cool, and it's a moot point since it failed. But some one could claim to only speak their tirbabl language or prefer to have it in their tribal language.
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01-26-2009, 10:26 AM
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cool, and it's a moot point since it failed. But some one could claim to only speak their tirbabl language or prefer to have it in their tribal language.
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No.
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