Rush Limbaugh hopes Obama Fails

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I'm not even gonna pretend that I know Philly football so I have to take you at your word.


Just in comparison and a very general one at that, from an outsider looking in...I still think that Donovan has had just as much success with what bits and peices he's had on offense (Westbrook whenever healthy plus whoever is the guest WR that year) than whatever Manning and Brady has had (at least up to this season...)


Something to consider...suppose McNabb won the Super Bowl ...how would he and Manning compare?

Just general stuff I'm throwing out there nothing to be considered gospel

So, educate me on your team, please.

** go for the hijack **

The advanced metrics show that Manning is much more accurate than McNabb; McNabb does some things really well as a quarterback, but his accuracy is not one of his stronger suits. That's not just because of lack of receiving talent...there are ways to measure it independent of who the receivers are on the field.

You could make the argument Westbrook is one of the top 5-10 offensive players in the NFL...so as far as pieces go, he's a pretty good one to have. Plus, TO played well when he was in Philly, when looking purely at numbers (although I'm not sure if he had as many drops as he has with the Cowboys).

I'm not a Philly fan, so I'll leave the specifics up to KSigRC...I'm just going off of what I've seen on TV, and read on sites like Football Outsiders.

ETA: Madmax is anti-McNabb, though, so you'll probably hear about it from him. Plus, you mentioned something about Philly fans booing, so he'll probably jump in on that too.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

The advanced metrics show that Manning is much more accurate than McNabb; McNabb does some things really well as a quarterback, but his accuracy is not one of his stronger suits. That's not just because of lack of receiving talent...there are ways to measure it independent of who the receivers are on the field.

Oh, yeah now that first part I DO agree with whole heartedly...but I still wonder if he had a long tenured WR the caliber of Moss or TO, how much better he would be.

Because yes, to SOME degree a WR makes the QB and so on.

But when Rush said what he said about Black QBs in general he spat on all the accomplishments that Moon, Cunningham, Williams, and McNair had already made in changing the game.

[madmax]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

The advanced metrics show that Manning is much more accurate than McNabb; McNabb does some things really well as a quarterback, but his accuracy is not one of his stronger suits. That's not just because of lack of receiving talent...there are ways to measure it independent of who the receivers are on the field.

You could make the argument Westbrook is one of the top 5-10 offensive players in the NFL...so as far as pieces go, he's a pretty good one to have. Plus, TO played well when he was in Philly, when looking purely at numbers (although I'm not sure if he had as many drops as he has with the Cowboys).

I'm not a Philly fan, so I'll leave the specifics up to KSigRC...I'm just going off of what I've seen on TV, and read on sites like Football Outsiders.

ETA: Madmax is anti-McNabb, though, so you'll probably hear about it from him. Plus, you mentioned something about Philly fans booing, so he'll probably jump in on that too.

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Woah, you may want to re-read my statement, because I was saying that Philly's reputation isn't deserved. Again, I said that "I don't think the reality is nearly as bad as the reputation." Thus, I said I don't really believe the reputation (which is the perception outside of Philly); I just think their fans are no worse than fans in New York or Boston or other cities that are crazy about sports.

People say the same thing about Boston (Fenway in particular) and NY (Yankee Stadium in particular) without having ever been there or having been to a game. I've seen Yankees fans treated well in Fenway, and Sox fans treated well in Yankee Stadium.
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The booing at the draft was so blown out of proportion. A total of 30 fans took a bus to NY for the draft. It was a trip sponsored by 610 wip radio and they all wanted the team to draft Ricky Williams. If you listen to the morons on ESPN they make it out as though there were 60,000 fans booing.

[PhiGam]

McNabb is good but Manning is one of the all time greats. As a die hard Dan Marino fan I will say that Peyton is the ONLY player that I will put on the same level as Marino in terms of passing ability.
The Eagles offense is only good when Brian Westbrook plays, he may be the best RB in the league right now.