Hamas vs Israel in the streets of Gaza

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

The methods of the deaths don't matter. People who die because the Israelis bull-dozed their house are no less dead than someone who pushed into a gas chamber.

As far as people dieing when their homes are bulldozed is concerned -- first, who the hell stays in a house when a slow bulldozer is coming towards it? I would call this suicide rather than murder. It's not these bulldozers sneak up on folks. Secondly, I believe the policy of bulldozing houses had something to do with retaliating against suicide bombers' families or terrorist collaborators. I find Israel's policy here to be reasonable. It's a lot like a civil forfeiture proceeding in the U.S., except that with the current situation in Gaza, Israel technically "owning" someone's home via civil forfeiture would be meaningless as no one would respect their property right. Let's not forget that in the vast majority of these cases, the people in those homes knowingly raised kids as murderers or cohabitated with individuals conspiring to murder innocent civilians. That is not a blameless situation and to pretend to be shocked and appalled in these situations completely ignores the reality of the situation and the fact that Israel has a right to defend itself.

No one in the Gaza has anything to do with the war Israel is having with Hamas.

I don't see how you could possibly believe this, but whatever.

Actually, it is comparable. Some find it comical? Everyone is in entitled to their opinion of humor. That doesn't make the note any less valid.

Actually, it is less valid. Genocide is different from war. 800 (with the majority being legitimate targets) is different than 6 million+ targets

It's not hard to see that.

[I.A.S.K.]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Secondly, I believe the policy of bulldozing houses had something to do with retaliating against suicide bombers' families or terrorist collaborators. I find Israel's policy here to be reasonable. It's a lot like a civil forfeiture proceeding in the U.S., except that with the current situation in Gaza, Israel technically "owning" someone's home via civil forfeiture would be meaningless as no one would respect their property right. Let's not forget that in the vast majority of these cases, the people in those homes knowingly raised kids as murderers or cohabitated with individuals conspiring to murder innocent civilians. That is not a blameless situation and to pretend to be shocked and appalled in these situations completely ignores the reality of the situation and the fact that Israel has a right to defend itself.

So, you commit a suicide bombing and the American government has the right to kill your family? Thats reasonable?
A civil forfeiture would only make sense if it were in the US. A CF claim could not be made on land in Iraq. It is not US land. Israel would have no property rights because it is a different country! They have NO property rights at all.
The idea that most people are raising their kids to be murderers is total crap.
You keep saying that Israel has a right to defend itself. Isreal is not currently defending itself. Israel is attacking Gaza. Two different things.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

You keep saying that Israel has a right to defend itself. Isreal is not currently defending itself. Israel is attacking Gaza. Two different things.

I mean . . . we can play the "spin game" all day, but isn't Israel defending itself from . . . thousands of rockets lobbed into Israel all willy-nilly?

[TexasWSP]

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

You keep saying that Israel has a right to defend itself. Isreal is not currently defending itself. Israel is attacking Gaza. Two different things.

You're reaching here sport.