Wal-Mart worker dies in Black Friday stampede

[DrPhil]

Uh...ok, Lango.

My comments stand.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by Langox510x

Odd thing is, I’ve heard people say buying sneakers for $175 is dumb, but is it no different then buying that $400 X-Box, or that $600 handbag?

$175 sneakers = dumb and selfish
$400 X-Box = dumb and selfish
$600 handbag = dumb and selfish

Giving the money we waste on ourselves to people who are starving to death and/or can't afford college and/or need medical attention, etc = good for the soul.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

No. But some people think that having $300 in an account after bills are paid counts as "excess." That counts as living paycheck to paycheck. The average American (who is out shopping right now) doesn't have any wealth accumulated and is living paycheck to paycheck.



If budgeting money when "money is tight" means living paycheck to paycheck, the presents should not be bought.

I think I love you.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

I think I love you.

...so what am I so afraid of
I'm afraid that I'm not sure of a love there is no cure for
I think I love you isn't that what life is made of
Though it worries me to say that I never felt this way

[PeppyGPhiB]

This is what retailers get for encouraging the chaos that comes with 4 am openings. They WANTED this kind of craziness - it creates an illusion of demand, driving more people to "BE THERE BEFORE THE STORE OPENS!" I hope Wal-Mart and other retailers that participate in this ridiculousness get a lot of bad PR for this. Enough is enough. For the first time in many years, my mom and I are not doing our traditional "girls day in the city" lunch/shopping trip today; although we never went to the big box stores on this day, we just decided that we didn't want to deal with the craziness considering we aren't buying as much this year.

[WinniBug]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

This is what retailers get for encouraging the chaos that comes with 4 am openings. They WANTED this kind of craziness - it creates an illusion of demand, driving more people to "BE THERE BEFORE THE STORE OPENS!" I hope Wal-Mart and other retailers that participate in this ridiculousness get a lot of bad PR for this. Enough is enough. For the first time in many years, my mom and I are not doing our traditional "girls day in the city" lunch/shopping trip today; although we never went to the big box stores on this day, we just decided that we didn't want to deal with the craziness considering we aren't buying as much this year.

That's what I was just thinking
It's the stores' fault for having a small, limited number of items and these doorbuster sales.
If you want something in particular, you have to get there first thing or the good deals will be all gone. Stores should carry more of the high-demand items.

[RU OX Alum]

That is absolutely horrible, what a disgusting way to behave. Seriously, How do you care about getting to wal-mart early more than if you trample someone to death???

what a sad day for civilization


Yeah, I need to go grocery shopping but I don't want to.

[AOII Angel]

Terrible story, though, I don't buy the miscarriage story. NO paramedic would diagnosis a miscarriage and say "There's nothing we can do. The baby is gone." That's absurd! I think that shopper misheard what they told the woman.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Terrible story, though, I don't buy the miscarriage story. NO paramedic would diagnosis a miscarriage and say "There's nothing we can do. The baby is gone." That's absurd! I think that shopper misheard what they told the woman.

Look what I found!

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...cal&id=6529135

It seems that the baby is fine, and the woman was 28 weeks along. It would have had to take a major blow for someone to miscarry at 28 weeks with no hope for the baby at such an early stage.

Let's keep in mind that this is what the New York Daily News (hardly a paper of record) reported about what went on in a Wal-Mart in Valley Stream, NY, on Black Friday. We're kinda scraping the bottom of the barrel here, IYKWIM.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Look what I found!

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...cal&id=6529135

It seems that the baby is fine, and the woman was 28 weeks along. It would have had to take a major blow for someone to miscarry at 28 weeks with no hope for the baby at such an early stage.

Let's keep in mind that this is what the New York Daily News (hardly a paper of record) reported about what went on in a Wal-Mart in Valley Stream, NY, on Black Friday. We're kinda scraping the bottom of the barrel here, IYKWIM.

I knew it! Shenanigans!

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Look what I found!

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...cal&id=6529135

It seems that the baby is fine, and the woman was 28 weeks along. It would have had to take a major blow for someone to miscarry at 28 weeks with no hope for the baby at such an early stage.

Thanks for the link!

I've always felt that you have to be a special kind of stupid to get involved in those "door busting specials", but I think the stores are crazy for holding them, too. Exactly how much more money do they plan to make by opening up five hours earlier than usual? Wouldn't a lot of the profits be eaten up by paying the workers overtime, or hiring extra employees?

ETA: I will admit that I'm not a fan of crowds, period. Put money in their hands and not even "goodies" to go around, and it can quickly become a riot!

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by honeychile

Thanks for the link!

I've always felt that you have to be a special kind of stupid to get involved in those "door busting specials", but I think the stores are crazy for holding them, too. Exactly how much more money do they plan to make by opening up five hours earlier than usual? Wouldn't a lot of the profits be eaten up by paying the workers overtime, or hiring extra employees?

ETA: I will admit that I'm not a fan of crowds, period. Put money in their hands and not even "goodies" to go around, and it can quickly become a riot!

I heard some stores were giving coffee and doughnuts to waiting customers. I assume this calms some people down.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I heard some stores were giving coffee and doughnuts to waiting customers. I assume this calms some people down.

Yeah, nothing like caffeine and a sugar rush to keep people calm.

I now completely and fully understand why we always started our Christmas baking on the Friday after Thanksgiving.

[DrPhil]

Whew...that makes me feel better. Thanks for that update.

I'm now half as pissed as I was.

[navane]

A worker died after being trampled and a woman miscarried when hundreds of shoppers smashed through the doors of a Long Island Wal-Mart Friday morning, witnesses said.

The unidentified worker, employed as an overnight stock clerk, tried to hold back the unruly crowds just after the Valley Stream store opened at 5 a.m.

Witnesses said the surging throngs of shoppers knocked the man down. He fell and was stepped on. As he gasped for air, shoppers ran over and around him.

"He was bum-rushed by 200 people," said Jimmy Overby, 43, a co-worker. "They took the doors off the hinges. He was trampled and killed in front of me. They took me down too...I literally had to fight people off my back."

Animals!

Seriously?? Is that high def TV so important to you that you would trample someone in order to get your hands on it? Are you going to kick back in your comfy sofa and enjoy your HDTV with some popcorn while another family grieves this Christmas? I hope it was worth it.

Dirtbags! Some people just don't know how to control themselves.

.....Kelly