ADVICE TO DIVINE 9 INTERESTED PERSONS

deepimpact2 · #1 10-28-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Retro

I am NOT greek. I am NOT a greek posing as a non greek to help you. I am an interestee who is attempting to help other interestees be intelligent in their pursuit of Greek life specific to the "Divine Nine". This is my first and only post that I will put on here to help stop the ignorance on here by mis or uninformed interestees... I have a list of things that if you follow will aid you in not sounding stupid on here or at your campus. I have had the great fortune of talking to others who are at the point I now am trying to get to (They are already Greek), and have compiled this list of insightful help aids. Please reccommend this thread to anyone who my be as you Greeks call a "troll", outsider, interestee, wannabe...

1). Before saying anything to anyone at all, visit everyones website first (National Sites). (Even the Sororities). Read everything that they have open for an outsider to visit. It is there for a reason and will definately come up at some point. The web site also will give you a chance to feel each group out. Everything from the color scheme to the links give insight into the group.

2). Look on youtube also. Look at the strolls, step routines, parties, probate shows etc.. Even listen to the backgroud conversations. This is an excellent tool to feel them out on a personal secondary level. You can see them in action.

3). Check facebook accounts on your schools network. Some pages you can view without having to add as friends. You can join groups and some even have pictures to view. This helps you to know see their faces.

4). After all this is done then either in a discreet facebook message or in person at an event, approach one in a respectful manner (try not to do so when they are in a group). Most will have a NPHC week of events you can go to and see them all. There is usually a panel discussion during that time.

5.) Be discreet in all that you do. Don't let your enthusiam be your demise. Don't say you want to join. Say you are interested. Once that is established....Keep everything else to yourself. PERIOD!

6). Everything you say and do is looked at. You may think they are not paying us any attention but they are.

7). Be ready for anything and everything. You don't want to be caught sleeping. That is to say first off have the grades in place already. I learned this the hard way. A 2.49 IS NOT A 2.5 . ITS ONLY A "C" AVERAGE SO MAKE IT HAPPEN. 12 CREDITS IS FULL TIME NOT 9, 10, OR 11. STOP WORRYING ABOUT MONEY, IF ITS IS MEANT IT WILL COME TOGETHER AND YOU WILL HAVE THE MEANS SERIOUSLY. DON'T NAME DROP IF YOU ARE NOT REALLY COOL WITH THAT PERSON. DON'T ADMIT TO A RELATIVE BEING A MEMBER WHO IS INACTIVE. DON'T SAY IT IF YOU DON'T KNOW IT.

8). MOST IMPORTANTLY...DON'T LIE. THEY WILL FIND OUT. IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN SOMETHING ELSE AT FIRST BE TRUTHFUL BE HONEST AND BE YOURSELF. THEY WERE WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO SO YOU ARE NOT UNIQUE TO WHATEVER YOUR REASON FOR WANTING TO JOIN.

SiNcErEly

RETRO May we meet on teh other side

Why would you look at their strolls, probates, and step shows to get an idea about whether you want to join that organization?
Also, if you can't make up your mind, don't go to any functions. At my school if you got "caught" going to other functions, it was a wrap. You could forget it. The greeks were not very forgiving when it came to that kind of thing.
At any rate, while it's nice to give advice, people should always remember that it is different on each campus. Still, I think across the board it is a bad idea to send someone a message on Facebook expressing your interest.

Senusret I · #2 10-28-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Why would you look at their strolls, probates, and step shows to get an idea about whether you want to join that organization?

To see if their public persona is something you want to be associated with.

Not in the sense of OMG THEY HAVE THE TIGHEST STEPS AND STROLLS EVER but more like ewwwww they pride themselves in looking like gangsters and hoochies.

deepimpact2 · #3 10-28-2008, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I

To see if their public persona is something you want to be associated with.

Not in the sense of OMG THEY HAVE THE TIGHEST STEPS AND STROLLS EVER but more like ewwwww they pride themselves in looking like gangsters and hoochies.

Well that kind of thing really depends on the chapter. You may have some AKA's that are doing the most hoochiefied stroll you have ever seen at one school, but at another school they are ladylike in what they do. I think it should be more focused on their national platforms than something that can involve so much variety. Remember you are in this organization for life. Pick based on that...not on something fleeting.

Senusret I · #4 10-28-2008, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Well that kind of thing really depends on the chapter. You may have some AKA's that doing the most hoochiefied stroll you have ever seen at one school, but at another school they are ladylike in what they do. I think it should be more focused on their national platforms than something that can involve so much variety. Remember you are in this roganization for life. Pick based on that...not on something fleeting.

What's your affiliation?

I think it goes without saying that certain things depend on the chapter, which is why graduate and alumni intake is so ubiquitous in NPHC organizations. Why waste time applying for a chapter that you don't fit in with? Or worse, getting into that chapter and being associated as being a slut or a thug because that's the chapter's rep?

deepimpact2 · #5 10-28-2008, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I

What's your affiliation?

I think it goes without saying that certain things depend on the chapter, which is why graduate and alumni intake is so ubiquitous in NPHC organizations. Why waste time applying for a chapter that you don't fit in with? Or worse, getting into that chapter and being associated as being a slut or a thug because that's the chapter's rep?

Even if that is the chapter's rep, if I truly have an interest in that organization I would have to find a way to make it work. I have frends who didn't like the chaPters on their campus, but because they truly loved what the organization stood for, they joined. In the process they helped to also change the rep of that chapter.

Senusret I · #6 10-28-2008, 05:17 PM

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Even if that is the chapter's rep, if I truly have an interest in that organization I would have to find a way to make it work. I have frends who didn't like the chaPters on their campus, but because they truly loved what the organization stood for, they joined. In the process they helped to also change the rep of that chapter.

And I think it's silly to join a chapter and try to change it. There is an entire period of formal and informal indoctrination which occurs after initiation that perpetuates a chapter's identity.

Most good people I know who pledged bad chapters are either silently complicit or adopted the characteristics of the chapter.

deepimpact2 · #7 10-28-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I

And I think it's silly to join a chapter and try to change it. There is an entire period of formal and informal indoctrination which occurs after initiation that perpetuates a chapter's identity.

Most good people I know who pledged bad chapters are either silently complicit or adopted the characteristics of the chapter.

I guess those people are pretty weak. No one I know who pledged "bad" chapters ended up being silently complicit or adopting the characteristics of that chapter. And no it's not "silly" to work at changing the rep of a chapter. And even if the rep doesn't get any better, if you carry yourself a certain way, people will realize that you aren't like that.

Sorry, but I just can't see basing a lifetime decision on ONE chapter's antics. I guess if it's that bad you should just wait and do Grad.