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10-22-2008, 01:32 PM
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I think we have about the most worthless Constitutional Amendment I've ever seen up on the ballot this go-round.
Section 36. A. All citizens of this state shall have an inherent right to engage in hunting, trapping, fishing, and taking game and fish, free of state laws which explicitly or implicitly effectively prohibit the ability of citizens to engage in such activities. Hunting, trapping, fishing and the taking of game and fish are a valued part of our heritage and will forever be preserved for the people. The Wildlife Conservation Commission shall be vested with the power and authority to approve methods, practices and procedures for hunting, trapping, fishing and the taking of game and fish.
B. Nothing in this section shall:
1. Be construed to prohibit reasonable regulation of the hunting, trapping, fishing and taking of game and fish; or
2. Operate to repeal or invalidate any laws or rules in existence on the effective date of its adoption.
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10-22-2008, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin
I think we have about the most worthless Constitutional Amendment I've ever seen up on the ballot this go-round.
Section 36. A. All citizens of this state shall have an inherent right to engage in hunting, trapping, fishing, and taking game and fish, free of state laws which explicitly or implicitly effectively prohibit the ability of citizens to engage in such activities. Hunting, trapping, fishing and the taking of game and fish are a valued part of our heritage and will forever be preserved for the people. The Wildlife Conservation Commission shall be vested with the power and authority to approve methods, practices and procedures for hunting, trapping, fishing and the taking of game and fish.
B. Nothing in this section shall:
1. Be construed to prohibit reasonable regulation of the hunting, trapping, fishing and taking of game and fish; or
2. Operate to repeal or invalidate any laws or rules in existence on the effective date of its adoption.
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Wait - uhhh, so it basically prevents a ban of hunting, but cedes the (likely already extant) right to regulate?
So, like . . . status quo?
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10-22-2008, 01:41 PM
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we have a couple of issues in ohio this year - mostly money related
the first is whether or not to approve a resort casino and the other is whether or not to impose limits on check cashing/payday loan businesses (time periods, percentage rates, and amounts loaned)
eek. as for the resort casino, the proposition is so loosely worded that i wonder how its even on the ballot (there are like NO regulations mentioned) and the payday loan concept is a little iffy to me as well - some people use them responsibilty and some people don't.
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10-22-2008, 01:50 PM
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Wait - uhhh, so it basically prevents a ban of hunting, but cedes the (likely already extant) right to regulate?
So, like . . . status quo?
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I'm really not sure what their aim was... our legislature is filled with a bunch of minimally educated numbnuts who generally dance to the beat of the lobbyists' drum.
My guess here is that a pro-hunting group proposed this, perhaps as a means to preempt any anti-hunting animal rights legislation proposals. Maybe they felt the need to fire an opening salvo in the legislative battle that doesn't exist.
So yeah... like... status quo.
Did I mention just how very much I hate all but a handful of my legislators? These guys are bona fide morons. Rednecks and Bible thumpers all around. Thank God we have a governor who is smart enough to veto the unconstitutional crap which comes out of that body.
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10-22-2008, 02:12 PM
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I'm really not sure what their aim was... our legislature is filled with a bunch of minimally educated numbnuts who generally dance to the beat of the lobbyists' drum.
My guess here is that a pro-hunting group proposed this, perhaps as a means to preempt any anti-hunting animal rights legislation proposals. Maybe they felt the need to fire an opening salvo in the legislative battle that doesn't exist.
So yeah... like... status quo.
Did I mention just how very much I hate all but a handful of my legislators? These guys are bona fide morons. Rednecks and Bible thumpers all around. Thank God we have a governor who is smart enough to veto the unconstitutional crap which comes out of that body.
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Is it a proposition (offered for a vote from the legislature), or an initiative (offered for a vote from private citizens)?
We always have plenty of interesting things on our ballots up here, but this election is a big one for us. Not only are we voting for president and governor (the same two candidates that were only separated by about 150 votes six years ago), but we're also voting on a "Death with Dignity" initiative similar to what Oregon has. There's also an initiative from a guy who's made it his mission to take down any tax in our state.
Oh, and we had a trapping initiative or proposition several years ago in Washington. Most types of trapping are illegal now here.
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10-22-2008, 05:57 PM
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Is it a proposition (offered for a vote from the legislature), or an initiative (offered for a vote from private citizens)?
We always have plenty of interesting things on our ballots up here, but this election is a big one for us. Not only are we voting for president and governor (the same two candidates that were only separated by about 150 votes six years ago), but we're also voting on a "Death with Dignity" initiative similar to what Oregon has. There's also an initiative from a guy who's made it his mission to take down any tax in our state.
Oh, and we had a trapping initiative or proposition several years ago in Washington. Most types of trapping are illegal now here.
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This comes from the legislature. We do have the initiative petition, but we don't have any of those this time 'round.
The next ballot should be interesting. We have something called the "HOPE" Act. Something which would force the legislature to appropriate about $1,100+more per pupil in our schools than they presently are, i.e., raise funding from ~$6,900 per student to the regional average which rings up at ~$8,000 per student.
That, coupled with a current on-the-books part of the Oklahoma Constitution which requires a vote of the people to raise taxes should lead our state government into instant fiscal disaster.
Should be fun to watch!
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10-22-2008, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin
I think we have about the most worthless Constitutional Amendment I've ever seen up on the ballot this go-round.
Section 36. A. All citizens of this state shall have an inherent right to engage in hunting, trapping, fishing, and taking game and fish, free of state laws which explicitly or implicitly effectively prohibit the ability of citizens to engage in such activities. Hunting, trapping, fishing and the taking of game and fish are a valued part of our heritage and will forever be preserved for the people. The Wildlife Conservation Commission shall be vested with the power and authority to approve methods, practices and procedures for hunting, trapping, fishing and the taking of game and fish.
B. Nothing in this section shall:
1. Be construed to prohibit reasonable regulation of the hunting, trapping, fishing and taking of game and fish; or
2. Operate to repeal or invalidate any laws or rules in existence on the effective date of its adoption.
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Could they at least name this amendment after the SNL Mother-humping Moose?
Last edited by UGAalum94; 10-22-2008 at 08:26 PM.
Reason: Is mother humping two words?
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