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Old 10-21-2008, 04:24 PM
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Nope, I was just (not so seriously) complaining that conservative got stuck onto authoritarian, again, sigh.

Sure, I think a deference to authority is generally a more conservative trait, but if the authority you value is one that honors civil liberties, maybe like the Bill of Rights, well, it all just gets kind of muddled.

If we've got left and right labeled progressive and conservative, why not use entirely different terms for the other axis?
I do think there's a difference between the type of conservative you're talking about and the type they are.

After all, the US is a liberal democracy. So even conservatives that agree with a liberal democracy would fall toward the progressive side of the spectrum here.

I think why they're both labeled the same is to show governments that are progressive in some rights and "conservative" in others, or conservative on all counts (fascism), or progressive on all counts (anarchism).
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Old 10-21-2008, 04:37 PM
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I do think there's a difference between the type of conservative you're talking about and the type they are.

After all, the US is a liberal democracy. So even conservatives that agree with a liberal democracy would fall toward the progressive side of the spectrum here.

I think why they're both labeled the same is to show governments that are progressive in some rights and "conservative" in others, or conservative on all counts (fascism), or progressive on all counts (anarchism).
Oh, yeah, no doubt there's a pretty big difference from the beliefs an individual holds and how we categorize states as well as how the terms are being used. I'm just not sure that using progressive/conservative works that well, especially because we do use those terms to describe individual beliefs. It also don't seem to make that much sense from the perspective of the definitions of the words: change vs. resistance to change.

The terminology isn't as precise as it should be, in my opinion, if we're using it to underpin the academic discipline.
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