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10-07-2008, 09:58 AM
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I hate when there's an allegation that so and so voted "against" some group of people, then references a bill or a group of bills, as above, without further explanation.
For all we know, those were bad bills, or veterans benefits were ancillary issues attached to other bills.
At worst, these sorts of "articles" are lies, at best, they're extremely misleading.
This is no better than posting political forwards out of your email inbox.
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10-07-2008, 10:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
I hate when there's an allegation that so and so voted "against" some group of people, then references a bill or a group of bills, as above, without further explanation.
For all we know, those were bad bills, or veterans benefits were ancillary issues attached to other bills.
At worst, these sorts of "articles" are lies, at best, they're extremely misleading.
This is no better than posting political forwards out of your email inbox.
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Kevin there is a link back to the website that hold this information, you at your leisure, may wish to look at them yourself and see what you come up with...also as stated above are bill numbers for easy reference...this isn't just a 'random' e mail forward, this is info pulled from a source.
Don't be afraid to click the link.
At the very worst it could be the truth.
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10-07-2008, 11:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
I hate when there's an allegation that so and so voted "against" some group of people, then references a bill or a group of bills, as above, without further explanation.
For all we know, those were bad bills, or veterans benefits were ancillary issues attached to other bills.
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I was about to ask was there further explanation on why it was voted down.
I hate it when either candidate says "So-and-so voted # times AGAINST this awesome thing" without offering an explanation as to why they voted against it. Like - John McCain voting against funding for the war because it had a timeline, not because he didn't think the troops needed funding.
People think it's so cut and dry but it never is - with all the pork added in to some of these bills it's almost impossible NOT to pass them if you don't want to get flack later on, because it can be turned around any which way that you voted against something that's important to however many people.
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10-07-2008, 01:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
I hate when there's an allegation that so and so voted "against" some group of people, then references a bill or a group of bills, as above, without further explanation.
For all we know, those were bad bills, or veterans benefits were ancillary issues attached to other bills.
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yes I totally agree. The AFLCIO link was posted (I believe) on the McCain's running mate thread, but I still didn't pay much attention to it. There is a reason why McCain, a veteran, would vote against these bills. Maybe there was a stipulation in there that he didn't agree with.
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