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Old 10-04-2008, 12:19 PM
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Someone explain to me what this 'hate crime' aspect is all about?
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Old 10-04-2008, 04:48 PM
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I think the following is the article AGDLynn quoted from:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i...EXwSgD93JHN1G0

Here's another, slightly different one:
http://media.www.thecampuspress.com/...-3469667.shtml

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And a slightly earlier one:
http://www.dailycamera.com/news/2008...ht-at-cu-frat/

This seems like a highly serious incident. Firebombing's no joke.

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Old 10-04-2008, 11:21 PM
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I found it but your links are okay!
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Old 10-04-2008, 11:27 PM
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That is so scary and awful! I'm glad no one was hurt.
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Old 10-05-2008, 05:30 PM
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If I were a prosecutor . . .

This is arson. If somebody dies it is a homicide, most likely murder. If I were a prosecutor I would charge this not only as arson, but as attempted murder, one count per resident.

But I am merely a probate attorney.
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Old 10-05-2008, 05:57 PM
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This is arson. If somebody dies it is a homicide, most likely murder.
Felony-murder.
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Old 10-05-2008, 06:48 PM
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Felony-murder.
That is correct, in a perfect world the felony murder rule would apply. But see also a Texas case, I believe it is People vs. Taylor, a 1986 or so case involving arson and death. They didn't apply the FMR.
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Old 10-06-2008, 12:42 AM
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Someone explain to me what this 'hate crime' aspect is all about?
A person can make a hate crime against greeks. Hate crimes happen against members of a social group. Most of the time you think of race, religion, sexuality, or maybe gender. But if something hurt me simply for being greek I would consider it a hate crime.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:15 AM
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A person can make a hate crime against greeks. Hate crimes happen against members of a social group. Most of the time you think of race, religion, sexuality, or maybe gender. But if something hurt me simply for being greek I would consider it a hate crime.
I know it's shoddy legal research on my part, so please correct me if this is wrong. I checked Wikipedia for a definition of hate crimes laws, and while the definition doesn't cite to a particular statute, it defines a hate crime as the following: "A hate crime is a criminal offense committed against a person or property motivated, in whole or in part, by the offender's bias against a racial group, religion, ethnicity, gender, sexual preference, or disability."

I don't see social group in there, and would have a hard time interpreting the hate crimes concept so broadly unless there was specific language somewhere alluding that sort of protection.
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