Is this ok?

AOII Angel · #1 09-19-2008, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ISUKappa

You don't *have* to invite anyone back you don't want to. Chapters can decide to release more than they're told from the release figures. But, in doing so, can hurt their chances of making quota, etc... It's generally thought best to invite back what your release figures suggest, but the GA or whomever isn't going to stand at your door telling you to invite back Nasty Nancy PNM to get up to that number if you don't want to.

Exactly! I would also like to point out that chapters who are asking people to give them a chance should do the same thing for the PNMs. Maybe an extra day will give a PNM a chance to show your chapter that she has something to contribute to your sisterhood. Chapters are often as bad as PNMs at making "top tier" decisions during recruitment. I personally believe that there are very few women in recruitment that would not be good members if given the chance. This, of course, excludes the women with obvious personality disorders.

33girl · #2 09-19-2008, 09:55 AM

What about grade issues? If the smallest chapter just so happens to be the one that requires a 3.0 GPA, and 50 of the 100 rushees have a GPA under that, there isn't anything they can do about it.

And if rush is deferred, it's often not a matter of "I heard that Rhoda Rushee was a hobag in high school" - sometimes it's having seen, with your own eyes, Rhoda Rushee having a threesome in the middle of a party. I know that isn't the case here and rush isn't deferred, but it's something I think has to be taken into consideration.

I seem to remember someone on here before talking about having to ask people back they didn't want to ask back because of release figures - maybe not the poster, but a chapter at their school. I don't know if that was coming from the Panhel or from their HQ though.

SWTXBelle · #3 09-19-2008, 10:00 AM

I'm pretty sure the NPC New Release Policy has nothing to do with requiring a certain number to be invited back - that would come from the GLO's HQ or advisors.

Kansas City · #4 09-19-2008, 10:17 AM

Also something that should probably be clarified is that release numbers are usually based on past history of a chapter's return rates. For example, chapter A with a 3-year average return rate of 98% will have to release more PNMs than chapter B with a 3-year average return rate of 72%. This method required chapter A to release PNMs earlier so that chapter B has a better opportunity to get to know and fall in love with more PNMs (and so the PNMs can have more time to fall in love with chapter B instead of getting caught up with chapter A).

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I'm pretty sure the NPC New Release Policy has nothing to do with requiring a certain number to be invited back - that would come from the GLO's HQ or advisors.

Yeah ... Release figures set how many to release, not how many to invite back. A chapter can make a steeper cut earlier in the week if they decide to but it could end up hurting them later if their historical return rates are low. Back to my example above, based on return rates at Pref, chapter A might have to invite 2x quota to Pref in order to make quota while chapter B might have to invite 5x quota in order to make same quota. If chapter B releases too many PNMs early in the week they run the risk, based on their past return rate, of not achieving quota.

AOII Angel · #5 09-19-2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

What about grade issues? If the smallest chapter just so happens to be the one that requires a 3.0 GPA, and 50 of the 100 rushees have a GPA under that, there isn't anything they can do about it.

And if rush is deferred, it's often not a matter of "I heard that Rhoda Rushee was a hobag in high school" - sometimes it's having seen, with your own eyes, Rhoda Rushee having a threesome in the middle of a party. I know that isn't the case here and rush isn't deferred, but it's something I think has to be taken into consideration.

I seem to remember someone on here before talking about having to ask people back they didn't want to ask back because of release figures - maybe not the poster, but a chapter at their school. I don't know if that was coming from the Panhel or from their HQ though.

If it's coming from PHA, then they need an adviser who can stand up to them. As for GPA, are there any NPC's with a national requirement of a 3.0 GPA? If the chapter has decided to require a 3.0 in a school with much lower average GPAs, then they have made that decision to limit their choices. If they don't make quota, then it's their own ( I don't want to say fault, because it's what they want) fault! If they want to meet quota in that situation, they need to be more realistic with their expectations.

33girl · #6 09-19-2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

If it's coming from PHA, then they need an adviser who can stand up to them. As for GPA, are there any NPC's with a national requirement of a 3.0 GPA? If the chapter has decided to require a 3.0 in a school with much lower average GPAs, then they have made that decision to limit their choices. If they don't make quota, then it's their own ( I don't want to say fault, because it's what they want) fault! If they want to meet quota in that situation, they need to be more realistic with their expectations.

I was using 3.0 as an example (not necessarily a realistic one). Coming from a small school, believe me, there were years when it seemed like rush signups and the "just barely above academic probation list" were the same thing. It happens.

And yeah, I totally agree with you about the advisor telling PHA what's what.

"Intersorority goodwill" only goes so far.

AOII Angel · #7 09-19-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

I was using 3.0 as an example (not necessarily a realistic one). Coming from a small school, believe me, there were years when it seemed like rush signups and the "just barely above academic probation list" were the same thing. It happens.

And yeah, I totally agree with you about the advisor telling PHA what's what.

"Intersorority goodwill" only goes so far.

I think we are very much on the same page, 33girl! Sometimes, things don't work out all peachy keen! RFM helps, but it doesn't deliver the best PNMs on a silver platter. The only other thing PHA can do is determine the most desirable PNMs and divvy them up evenly between all groups. I don't think we'd like all the cookie- cutter sororities that would result, though!