Campuses with Only 2 NPC Chapters

[33girl]

I think that the Greek advisor breaks the tie. This is, of course, operating under the premise that you have a Greek advisor who knows his/her bum from a hole in the ground - not always the case at schools with smaller Greek life.

What you need to do is look at WHY one chapter is half the size of the other one, and have both groups try to remedy it together. Housing? National programs? Stereotypes? What?

[AZ-AlphaXi]

do the Panhellenic by-laws say who breaks the tie? Usually the chair breaks the tie and doesn't vote otherwise, but with only 2 chapters and the chair being a member of one of those chapters, that doesn't seem fair or a good idea.

have you contacted our NPC delegate or the NPC advisor for your campus for direction?

[NutBrnHair]

Originally Posted by AZ-AlphaXi

have you contacted our NPC delegate or the NPC advisor for your campus for direction?

Good idea.

Also, the Greek Advisor (like 33girl said, if there is one!) could seek ideas from other professionals through AFA (Assoc. of Fraternity Advisors). I'm sure there are other campuses which face the same challenges.

[AXiDTrish]

AlphaXi1997,
I would love to know what campus you are at. Feel free to PM me....I would LOVE to brainstorm!

I advise where there are only 2 NPC groups....when it's good it's great and when it is recruitment, it's down right nasty. We don't have quota or total yet and we meet our individual national standards, but it's really crazy. My recruitment favorite this year was the other chapter bringing fresh baked cookies to the PNM's in the dorm's the night before preference when it's written in the rules twice not to do things like that! When you don't know it happened and PNM's come to your pref asking why you don't like them because you didn't give them gifts the night before....well that's impossible to compete with! Or why you didn't take them to fraternity party before Day One parties or why you didn't go on Facebook and list them as ABC's before pref night even starts! (Can you tell I'm gearing up for our Panhellenic fun fest tomorrow?)

How do I teach integrity to my chapter and tell them that they should play fairly when the egg is on their face? And you are correct!!! With only two chapters, Panhellenic is moot!

[StargazerLily]

Originally Posted by AXiDTrish

AlphaXi1997,
I would love to know what campus you are at. Feel free to PM me....I would LOVE to brainstorm!

I advise where there are only 2 NPC groups....when it's good it's great and when it is recruitment, it's down right nasty. We don't have quota or total yet and we meet our individual national standards, but it's really crazy. My recruitment favorite this year was the other chapter bringing fresh baked cookies to the PNM's in the dorm's the night before preference when it's written in the rules twice not to do things like that! When you don't know it happened and PNM's come to your pref asking why you don't like them because you didn't give them gifts the night before....well that's impossible to compete with! Or why you didn't take them to fraternity party before Day One parties or why you didn't go on Facebook and list them as ABC's before pref night even starts! (Can you tell I'm gearing up for our Panhellenic fun fest tomorrow?)

How do I teach integrity to my chapter and tell them that they should play fairly when the egg is on their face? And you are correct!!! With only two chapters, Panhellenic is moot!

WOW....this sounds so similar to my campus....

[FSUZeta]

[QUOTE=33girl;1716044]I think that the Greek advisor breaks the tie. This is, of course, operating under the premise that you have a Greek advisor who knows his/her bum from a hole in the ground - not always the case at schools with smaller Greek life.

i agree-that is what i thought happened in the case of a tie.

does the smaller chapter hold cob events? are they getting help from their national office?

if one chapter is half the size of the other, why is anyone considering raising total? are there that many girls going bidless?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

if one chapter is half the size of the other, why is anyone considering raising total? are there that many girls going bidless?

This is a shot in the dark, but I'm wagering that Big Chapter has lots of girls who want to join and can't take them all and they don't give a rat's rump that Small Chapter is floundering.

It also needs to be explained to chapters sometimes that if total is lowered, they don't need to kick girls out to get down to it. It's called a grandfather clause, look into it. But seriously, I have seen chapters just lose their crap thinking they would have to kick girls out or retract bids if total is reduced.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

if one chapter is half the size of the other, why is anyone considering raising total? are there that many girls going bidless?

My school is similar to what the OP is talking about (in fact, it might even be the same university) and its not the fact that many girls are going bidless, in fact, since there are few #s of PNMs going through recruitment, most (if not all) get bids.

From my years at my university, i've seen the size of the two NPCs grow and then fall. When I first started at school, both NPCs were pretty equal in size, and getting close to total. Now, XYZ definitely larger than ABC. It seems as though ABC has more trouble with retention than XYZ does.

To the OP: If your school is like my school, I'd suggest you focus more on retention than raising/lowering total.

[Jill1228]

Originally Posted by epchick

My school is similar to what the OP is talking about (in fact, it might even be the same university) and its not the fact that many girls are going bidless, in fact, since there are few #s of PNMs going through recruitment, most (if not all) get bids.

From my years at my university, i've seen the size of the two NPCs grow and then fall. When I first started at school, both NPCs were pretty equal in size, and getting close to total. Now, XYZ definitely larger than ABC. It seems as though ABC has more trouble with retention than XYZ does.

To the OP: If your school is like my school, I'd suggest you focus more on retention than raising/lowering total.

And honey, she is speaking the truth! I know it well...