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Old 08-20-2008, 08:44 PM
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Only about 15% of the students at Pepperdine are CoC. There are many other denominations, but a lot of students don't even claim a religious affiliation. I partied plenty when I was there, and I lived on campus all four years. If your roommates ratted on you, it sounds like you just had crummy roommates. I know there are plenty of goodie-goodies there, though, that are sheltered beyond belief, so I don't doubt what you say.

You should know, though, that Beta was always in trouble at Pepperdine. From 1996 to 2000 when I was there, and many times since. And it wasn't always for small stuff. The school looked the other way on the partying for years, but there were allegations of sexual assault I heard about, too, and then this drinking at the recruitment event. That was just sloppy; they took on the responsibility of guys they were just meeting through rush and should have been watching them like a hawk knowing that alcohol had been such an issue for the chapter historically. I do hope that Beta returns to Pepperdine some day - our chapter did a lot of stuff with you guys, and no doubt the "scene" is probably hurting for the lack of another fraternity. But for a chapter to succeed at Pepperdine, it has to learn how to play the game; plenty of chapters have been able to learn, but we've lost a few along the way.

ETA: BTW, when did you graduate? I have a feeling (since it sounds like you were in the local) it was before my time, and if that's the case, the school has progressed quite a bit since then. The student body has become more moderate/liberal and tolerant.
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Old 12-15-2008, 10:02 PM
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Only about 15% of the students at Pepperdine are CoC. There are many other denominations, but a lot of students don't even claim a religious affiliation. I partied plenty when I was there, and I lived on campus all four years. If your roommates ratted on you, it sounds like you just had crummy roommates. I know there are plenty of goodie-goodies there, though, that are sheltered beyond belief, so I don't doubt what you say.

You should know, though, that Beta was always in trouble at Pepperdine. From 1996 to 2000 when I was there, and many times since. And it wasn't always for small stuff. The school looked the other way on the partying for years, but there were allegations of sexual assault I heard about, too, and then this drinking at the recruitment event. That was just sloppy; they took on the responsibility of guys they were just meeting through rush and should have been watching them like a hawk knowing that alcohol had been such an issue for the chapter historically. I do hope that Beta returns to Pepperdine some day - our chapter did a lot of stuff with you guys, and no doubt the "scene" is probably hurting for the lack of another fraternity. But for a chapter to succeed at Pepperdine, it has to learn how to play the game; plenty of chapters have been able to learn, but we've lost a few along the way.

ETA: BTW, when did you graduate? I have a feeling (since it sounds like you were in the local) it was before my time, and if that's the case, the school has progressed quite a bit since then. The student body has become more moderate/liberal and tolerant.
PeppyG. You're completely wrong. The campus has not gotten more liberal. The percentage of conservative/religious students was at an all time low (<10%) in the early 1990s. Now, the school actively works to increase the percentage of Church of Christ kids (>20% today). Thus, it gets a polarized student body of mostly secular kids (who want to party) and ultra-conservative Christian fundamentalists (who want to help the administration create a police state). A house divided cannot stand. The undergraduate student body at Pepperdine could not be more disfunctional. Because of Prop 8, Pep is now recognized state-wide as being socially conservative and anti-gay.

I also reject your argument that a party frat can exist at Pep if it can just "learn to play the game". In the long-term, a party frat cannot survive at Pepperdine. These are 19-year-old boys who are going to drink beer and then talk about it. The administration will get them eventually. The University can even use weasle language in its accusations like "a culture of drinking" to get rid of frats. My general feeling is that Pep is too heavy handed in managing drinking in its Greek system and is effectively killing the social scene (and negative word of mouth spreads like wildfire over Facebook & MySpace). I understand the importance of keeping kids safe and reducing the liability of the University, but an entire Greek system of service frats and sororities is pretty boring. If I were a National Frat, I would decline to colonize at Pep. Why put in the effort to set up a chapter at a University where the survival rate is so low because of a zero-tolerance alcohol policy?
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