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Originally posted by MenaceKiller
That's the kind of behavior I'm dealing with. 
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well, call me a square then i guess!! i get TWO days a week to sleep in, and lately those days have been dissappearing too!! time to fight back! DAMN THE MAN!
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OK - well . . . if he feels this way, and you 'vote' on every event and its time, then he's campaigning for votes against such activities. Isn't that the only way to make actual change? It's not necessarily the right way - but what makes 7am philanthropies a better way? My point is, I think here you're neglecting his opinion simply b/c of how he phrases it. Early service events = crappy turnout, simple enough, and I hate to say it but his campaigning to alter this is probably better for your chapter as a whole. Think about it objectively - if you plan on being president, you'll have to start doing that more, b/c remember: the chair is neutral.
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Originally posted by MenaceKiller
$125 to whack balls and eat frank and beans...hmmm...balls...frank and beans...any connection there if people wanna whack balls, i'm sure we can set up a easier ball whacking competition! anyone volunteer to have their balls whacked? I'm out, since i plan on having kids someday!
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Uhhh . . . things worse than this are said in every chapter meeting of every fraternity nationwide. I don't see how this deters his leadership - there are different ways to be a leader, as many as you can imagine, and all can be effective.
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Originally posted by MenaceKiller
Dude, worry not, i LIKE the idea of eating while staring at hooters....as long as they are not [the pledge]'s fake hooters....friday nites at #rd St are ALWAYS fun...this will make it more so...shall we make [the pledge] dance for money? Shall we make him get a dude's phone number?
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OK - well, here he may cross the line into inappropriate conduct with pledges, but let's be honest, comments like this happen all the time, and don't necessarily reflect poorly on someone's ability to perform a task. These are the points you should hit harder, not joking around on a chapter message board - have him be a role model, and show why he should want to be, not just what people think of him or the like.
I think it boils down to this - if this guy's going to get elected by a majority vote in your chapter, and you think he sucks, well . . . who's out of touch with whom?
Perhaps you're out of touch with the desires of the chapter, and that's why they follow this guy. That's the alternative to your "he shouldn't lead the flock astray!" train of thought, and I think the actual scenario lies in the middle between these two views. Perhaps you should try to center yourself, as well as the man who will most likely be elected VP - obviously he has support, enough to pass vote and be elected.
As far as your reply to his PM - while well-worded, I think it's a bit over the top to expect all comments and input to be on-topic in any scenario, whether it be online, in the chapter hall, or in an informal committee meeting. I'd say you're missing the forest for the trees here - if good ideas are still coming out, then there can be room for some joking in the normal flow of conversation - that's how some people communicate.
I feel like you're shutting yourself down too much by drawing your lines so thickly - opening yourself will ultimately make you a better president.
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