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Old 06-21-2008, 10:07 AM
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As I said, I DO understand why Both of them said what they said and "how" they said it. MSNBC's piece covered it as did Mrs. Bush.
However, "talking-heads", pundits, and "political operatives" turn matters around.
And some seem to have the need to go after a candidate's wife just to "find" or have points to pick on.

I am already tired of the "whispered"/"rumors" campaign that already started.
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/nys-blo...20090409990005
I understand being tired of the rumors, etc. However, in this thread, every time someone tries to say they understand the context of both of the statements, your response seems to be "Fine, but we should still criticize McCain because Michelle Obama was criticized."

We all understand that people in the other thread criticized Michelle Obama, and we all understand that members of the public and political correspondents did the same thing. If you want to criticize McCain, that's fine. If you want to "even things up," or whatever, to mirror the criticism directed at Michelle Obama, go right ahead. But you seem to be saying it's wrong for others to give context, or not have a problem with either of the statements.

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Haha, When you put it like that, it sounds like I'm doing a motivational poster. Either that, or cheering someone on in a marathon.
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Old 06-21-2008, 10:41 AM
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In the end, Michelle Obama was attacked because she's a strong opinionated woman...something politics just doesn't like! I'm so sick of hearing about what a b*tch Michelle Obama is because she has a voice and isn't afraid to use it! The same thing happened to Teresa Heinz Kerry in the last election.
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Old 06-21-2008, 10:41 AM
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I understand being tired of the rumors, etc. However, in this thread, every time someone tries to say they understand the context of both of the statements, your response seems to be "Fine, but we should still criticize McCain because Michelle Obama was criticized."

We all understand that people in the other thread criticized Michelle Obama, and we all understand that members of the public and political correspondents did the same thing. If you want to criticize McCain, that's fine. If you want to "even things up," or whatever, to mirror the criticism directed at Michelle Obama, go right ahead. But you seem to be saying it's wrong for others to give context, or not have a problem with either of the statements.

Haha, When you put it like that, it sounds like I'm doing a motivational poster. Either that, or cheering someone on in a marathon.
KSigKid;
While UPS does have a nickname of being the Harvard of the Northwest, perhaps I just am not able to type just what I am feeling or thinking.
My observations, from the MSNBC clip, here in GC and other sources, seem that a group/section/segment of the population seem not to care about how dirty things get as long as just one side get exposed.
That group seems to find reasons/excuses if something happens to their side. Or just says that it is wrong.

To me, the whole thing is wrong.

And I think I posted the rather obvious choices that party has:
1) Ignore it.
2) Correct it.
3) Fight back.

And now goes beyond the parties and even the 527's. Now we have "bloggers" who can post just about what ever they want/wish to and have that "information" out on the web to be seen.

While the 527's can be controlled, to some extent, I do not see the same for the bloggers.

And I found this story in my morning news briefs:
Ready to attack Obama, if some money arrives

Man behind 1988 Willie Horton ads has so far failed to raise much money

....."Mr. Brown is back to his trade of bludgeoning a Democratic candidate for president, producing an innuendo-laden advertisement that is being televised this week in Michigan, albeit sparsely on cable, questioning Mr. Obama’s religious background."............
........"Major donors are said to be uncertain of Mr. McCain’s chances as Republicans face a decidedly unfavorable climate in the fall. Lingering, as well, is the possibility that they may anger Mr. McCain, who has a record of campaign finance reform and has in the past been critical of such groups.
Perhaps in recognition of financial realities, the McCain campaign has softened its statements on such groups, repeatedly saying it cannot be expected to “referee” them.
Steve Schmidt, a senior adviser to Mr. McCain, said Friday that although Mr. McCain had made clear his objections to such groups, he also recognized that a number of them were poised to work on Mr. Obama’s behalf. Mr. Schmidt said Mr. McCain understood that “people who want to participate in the process because of what’s going on on the other side are going to participate in the process.”
“He’s not going to be a unilateral referee,” Mr. Schmidt added.
Frank J. Donatelli, deputy chairman of the Republican National Committee, predicted that Mr. Obama’s decision not to use public financing would energize Republicans.
“We are going to be ready,” Mr. Donatelli said.
Enter Mr. Brown, who says it is his calling to tread where the campaign is unwilling to tread in finding malicious gossip on a Democratic nominee.".....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25294212/
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/21/us...rss&oref=login

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