Michelle Obama rumor- October surprise

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I don't know what you're asking.

Nothing is wrong w/ positions, beliefs, etc...

I know that Barack won't disclose his far-left leanings, because he's a politician and he wants to be elected.

It'll be dirty, and it'll be on both sides. I think history and common knowledge indicates the right is better at this stuff. Whether we can do it without turning off the country or not, who knows. Sometimes you turn off the country and still manage to win, depends on what mud is being slung.

What makes you think that Obama is farther to the left than his positions and solutions to issues indicate on his website? They seem pretty far left to me (farther than I'm totally comfortable with). However, McCain is also moving further right in his speeches and campaign than he was during the 2000 primaries, so what should believe there?

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by AGDee

What makes you think that Obama is farther to the left than his positions and solutions to issues indicate on his website? They seem pretty far left to me (farther than I'm totally comfortable with). However, McCain is also moving further right in his speeches and campaign than he was during the 2000 primaries, so what should believe there?

Well, with McCain, you've got a pretty long voting record to go on which I would think would be predictive of what he actually believes and would do.

Rhetorically, I think he has to go right since he was pretty center and hopes to set himself apart and attract people more conservative than himself to the polls. I don't think he can expect to pull enough of the middle away from Obama to win without getting conservatives to believe it's important to elect him.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by AGDee

What makes you think that Obama is farther to the left than his positions and solutions to issues indicate on his website? They seem pretty far left to me (farther than I'm totally comfortable with). However, McCain is also moving further right in his speeches and campaign than he was during the 2000 primaries, so what should believe there?

McCain is not, by any stretch, a far-right conservative. I hope he does move further right, but he's not even close to extreme.

I believe Obama is far left because of his associations, his statements, his past and his penchant for social engineering. I've seen similarly veiled statements from academics who acknowledge their socialistic tendencies and who focus on the destruction of the status quo with regard to economics.

Contrast Obama with someone like Hillary, who I believe to be a liberal opportunist. The latter, though politically dissimilar from my views, does not embrace the core of the far left. I think Obama understands and embraces those views.