Why do LGLO/MCGLOs follow NPHC practices?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

underground pledging

Maybe not....

[PANTHERTEKE]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Maybe not....

I'm not saying that all MCGLOs have underground pledging. But if they were to have it, we all know they didn't get that idea from the NIC/NPC orgs.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

I'm not saying that all MCGLOs have underground pledging. But if they were to have it, we all know they didn't get that idea from the NIC/NPC orgs.

How would we really know if it's "underground," though?

Here's a little secret: Long ago in a far away land, there were non-NPHC fraternities and sororities (including IFC fraternities) that wanted to "cross-pledge" with NPHC sororities and fraternities.

Everywhere this has occurred, who knows, but one account states that the NPHCers who arrived found the IFC fraternity, for example, to be doing some similar things that the NPHCers do. Not the same but similar...one's imagination should kick in here.

So...aside from traditions that are allowed "above ground," it is difficult to say what people are doing behind closed doors (which has been said in this thread, too) unless people are talking too darn much. And that happens sometimes, of course.

[PANTHERTEKE]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

How would we really know if it's "underground," though?

Here's a little secret: Long ago in a far away land, there were non-NPHC fraternities and sororities (including IFC fraternities) that wanted to "cross-pledge" with NPHC sororities and fraternities.

Everywhere this has occurred, who knows, but one account states that the NPHCers who arrived found the IFC fraternity, for example, to be doing some similar things that the NPHCers do. Not the same but similar...one's imagination should kick in here.

So...aside from traditions that are allowed "above ground," it is difficult to say what people are doing behind closed doors (which has been said in this thread, too) unless people are talking too darn much. And that happens sometimes, of course.

I agree with you.

I think that our organizations may have more in common "behind closed doors" than we like to think. Which is why it bothers me when people assume that "white orgs" aren't "tough" because we don't "pledge" hard.

Either way, I was more referring to the fact that some cultural orgs make their pledges keep their pledgeship a secret, as opposed to NIC/NPC orgs.

And to Senusret I, there is no fundamental difference between a "line" and a "pledge class." Its just different terms.

But my point was that the fact that these cultural orgs use the terms that NPHC orgs use proves that they "borrow" a lot from the NPHC.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

I think that our organizations may have more in common "behind closed doors" than we like to think. Which is why it bothers me when people assume that "white orgs" aren't "tough" because we don't "pledge" hard. I mean, how would anyone but my brothers and I know what happened in my pledging process?

Uh...well...okay....

I laughed.

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

Either way, I was more referring to the fact that some cultural orgs make their pledges keep their pledgeship a secret, as opposed to NIC/NPC orgs.

And to Senusret I, there is no fundamental difference between a "line" and a "pledge class." Its just different terms.

But my point was that the fact that these cultural orgs use the terms that NPHC orgs use proves that they "borrow" a lot from the NPHC.

Well, you were talking about "underground pledging." Although you will find NPHC, IFC, NIC/NPCers who speak openly about their "pledgeship" as it pertains to "underground pledging," this doesn't mean that NPHCers are told to keep it secret whereas NIC/NPCers are not told to do the same.

I agree that cultural orgs borrow a lot from the NPHC because many of them were founded during a time when activities were made more public and therefore more easily copied (without needing an NPHC "mentor" to assist in the building of traditions and practices). But I think there are certain aspects of "underground" that the NPHC perhaps can not (and should not because some of them aren't proud accomplishments) lay claim to that we've been given credit for.

[PANTHERTEKE]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

But I think there are certain aspects of "underground" that the NPHC perhaps can not (and should not because some of them aren't proud accomplishments) lay claim to that we've been given credit for.

Such as?

lol

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

Such as?

lol

Such as when some NPHCers line their pledges up and have them bake chocolate cream cakes for baking competitions.

We all know that strawberry cream cake is better.

ETA: Plus, baking competitions clearly originated with the NIC/NPC/IFC.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

I'm not saying that all MCGLOs have underground pledging. But if they were to have it, we all know they didn't get that idea from the NIC/NPC orgs.

Uhhh, I know at least two chapters of my fraternity who underground pledge.

[starang21]

having to line up doesn't mean you're on line.

:unsure:

[PANTHERTEKE]

Originally Posted by starang21

having to line up doesn't mean you're on line.

:unsure:

It just means you're IN line.

And I agree with the person who said this thread is redundant.