The 2008 presidential field at-a-glance

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Hmmm...uhhh...nate...so...errrrmm...BEFORE the South tried to secede...what was it...?

I got 5 dollars that sez he comes back with a cardboard answer....

The war didn't start until after secession of South Carolina, then after the shot at Fort Sumter, the other states then followed suit.

[Thetagirl218]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

I voted for Romney, but I might be able to handle McCain if Huckabee was there too. Maybe...

I was the other end of the conservative spectrum....I voted for Huckabee, but I might vote for McCain if he chooses even Romney!

I am just praying he doesn't pick Crist.....

[shinerbock]

I'd prefer someone other than Pawlenty or Crist.

Romney would be good, but I'm worried about tarnishing him if McCain goes in the tank. I'd love a Romney/Jindal campaign in 2012.

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I'd prefer someone other than Pawlenty or Crist.

Romney would be good, but I'm worried about tarnishing him if McCain goes in the tank. I'd love a Romney/Jindal campaign in 2012.

I'd definitely go for Romney/Jindal. There was a rumor McCain was going to pick Jindal, but I don't think it is the best time for Jindal to pursue that.

[Thetagirl218]

Is the Democratic Race finally over????

[jon1856]

Rather interesting thought:
Next Stop, Supreme Court?
As the primary season nears a merciful end, the Clinton-Obama conflict is giving way to Obama-Clinton conjecture. Many in the Democratic Party support a so-called dream ticket of both, with Barack Obama at the top. They believe Hillary Clinton has earned the No. 2 spot through her feisty, never-say-die campaign, and they worry that her supporters will stay home in November if she isn't part of the ticket.
Opponents counter that in terms of the electoral vote, Clinton might not help carry any states that wouldn't already go for Obama. Moreover, the possibility of both Clintons ganging up on a President Obama could make life more difficult for him than anything the Republicans could ever put together.
But there is another way to foster party unity without forcing a political marriage.
It's likely that the next president will face at least one Supreme Court vacancy. Obama should promise Hillary Clinton, now, that if he wins in November, the vacancy will be hers, making her first on a list of one. ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...052001571.html

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Rather interesting thought:
Next Stop, Supreme Court?
As the primary season nears a merciful end, the Clinton-Obama conflict is giving way to Obama-Clinton conjecture. Many in the Democratic Party support a so-called dream ticket of both, with Barack Obama at the top. They believe Hillary Clinton has earned the No. 2 spot through her feisty, never-say-die campaign, and they worry that her supporters will stay home in November if she isn't part of the ticket.
Opponents counter that in terms of the electoral vote, Clinton might not help carry any states that wouldn't already go for Obama. Moreover, the possibility of both Clintons ganging up on a President Obama could make life more difficult for him than anything the Republicans could ever put together.
But there is another way to foster party unity without forcing a political marriage.
It's likely that the next president will face at least one Supreme Court vacancy. Obama should promise Hillary Clinton, now, that if he wins in November, the vacancy will be hers, making her first on a list of one. ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...052001571.html

good job!! you went from "guy who posts news things" to "guy who could take over washington" with just that one post

i didn't even think about the supreme court thing

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I'd prefer someone other than Pawlenty or Crist.

Romney would be good, but I'm worried about tarnishing him if McCain goes in the tank. I'd love a Romney/Jindal campaign in 2012.

I'm a huge Romney supporter, for a number of reasons. His presence on the ticket would be enough for me to vote McCain, but, like you, I'm hoping he just holds off for a possible 2012 run.

As for Hilary on the SCOTUS; I really don't see that happening. If Obama wins, there are a number of other potential nominees (MA Governor Deval Patrick, Dean Kagan from Harvard, Kathleen Sullivan from Stanford, Seth Waxman at WilmerHale, among many others) who would be ahead of Hilary on the list.

Incidentally, the SCOTUSblog has a post listing some potential nominees (note, the list is from July 2007):
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/the-dem...so-short-list/

Looks like Crist, Jindal, and maybe Romney will talk VP stuff at his Arizona home.

[nate2512]

http://www.presidentelectionpolls.co...hn-mccain.html
http://www.presidentelectionpolls.co...hn-mccain.html

Ah how the democrats totally screwed up primary process is going to ensure great odds for the Republicans

[DaemonSeid]

(CNN) -- In the face of mounting controversy over headline-grabbing statements from the Rev. John Hagee, CNN has learned that presumptive Republican nominee John McCain decided Thursday to reject his endorsement.

McCain later also repudiated the support of Rod Parsley, an Ohio preacher who has called Islam an inherantly violent religion.

McCain told CNN's Brian Todd that he rejected Hagee's endorsement after Todd brought to his attention Hagee's comments that Adolf Hitler had been fulfilling God's will by hastening the desire of Jews to return to Israel in accordance with biblical prophecy.

"God says in Jeremiah 16: 'Behold, I will bring them the Jewish people again unto their land that I gave to their fathers. ... Behold, I will send for many fishers, and after will I send for many hunters. And they the hunters shall hunt them.' That would be the Jews. ... Then God sent a hunter. A hunter is someone who comes with a gun and he forces you. Hitler was a hunter," Hagee said, according to a transcript of his sermon.

In a statement to CNN on Thursday, McCain said "Obviously, I find these remarks and others deeply offensive and indefensible, and I repudiate them. I did not know of them before Rev. Hagee's endorsement, and I feel I must reject his endorsement as well." Watch how the Hagee endorsement unraveled »

Shortly after McCain's announcement Thursday afternoon, Hagee withdrew his endorsement, citing critics who had been "grossly misrepresenting" his positions.

"I am tired of these baseless attacks and fear that they have become a distraction in what should be a national debate about important issues. I have therefore decided to withdraw my endorsement of Sen. McCain for president effective today, and to remove myself from any active role in the 2008 campaign," he said in a statement.

"I hope that the Sen. McCain will accept this withdrawal so that he may focus on the issues that are most important to America and the world."

McCain also said that his relationship with Hagee did not compare with Sen. Barack Obama's lengthy association with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, whose own inflammatory comments remain, for some Republicans, a persistent campaign issue even though Obama has denounced his former minister.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/...gee/index.html





Hmmmm....McCain had sought Hagee's endorsement, which he gave at a news conference on Feb. 27.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20...ahbriwyyaaym_1

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-h...e_b_89227.html

There are differences and similarities....

Obama had a personal relationship with Wright

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

(CNN) -- In the face of mounting controversy over headline-grabbing statements from the Rev. John Hagee, CNN has learned that presumptive Republican nominee John McCain decided Thursday to reject his endorsement.

McCain later also repudiated the support of Rod Parsley, an Ohio preacher who has called Islam an inherantly violent religion.

McCain told CNN's Brian Todd that he rejected Hagee's endorsement after Todd brought to his attention Hagee's comments that Adolf Hitler had been fulfilling God's will by hastening the desire of Jews to return to Israel in accordance with biblical prophecy.

"God says in Jeremiah 16: 'Behold, I will bring them the Jewish people again unto their land that I gave to their fathers. ... Behold, I will send for many fishers, and after will I send for many hunters. And they the hunters shall hunt them.' That would be the Jews. ... Then God sent a hunter. A hunter is someone who comes with a gun and he forces you. Hitler was a hunter," Hagee said, according to a transcript of his sermon.

In a statement to CNN on Thursday, McCain said "Obviously, I find these remarks and others deeply offensive and indefensible, and I repudiate them. I did not know of them before Rev. Hagee's endorsement, and I feel I must reject his endorsement as well." Watch how the Hagee endorsement unraveled »

Shortly after McCain's announcement Thursday afternoon, Hagee withdrew his endorsement, citing critics who had been "grossly misrepresenting" his positions.

"I am tired of these baseless attacks and fear that they have become a distraction in what should be a national debate about important issues. I have therefore decided to withdraw my endorsement of Sen. McCain for president effective today, and to remove myself from any active role in the 2008 campaign," he said in a statement.

"I hope that the Sen. McCain will accept this withdrawal so that he may focus on the issues that are most important to America and the world."

McCain also said that his relationship with Hagee did not compare with Sen. Barack Obama's lengthy association with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, whose own inflammatory comments remain, for some Republicans, a persistent campaign issue even though Obama has denounced his former minister.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/...gee/index.html





Hmmmm....McCain had sought Hagee's endorsement, which he gave at a news conference on Feb. 27.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20...ahbriwyyaaym_1

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-h...e_b_89227.html

There are differences and similarities....

Obama had a personal relationship with Wright

I don't see what the big deal here is?

[a.e.B.O.T.]

Any thoughts of Clinton's Assassination comments... So, yes, I don't think she meant that she is staying the race, hoping Obama gets assassinated, but how could she not realize how distasteful she sounded? I don't really get it...

Oh, I think that supreme court is a bit of a stretch. Oh, and it has to be approved by Congress, and I don't think she will get far. Political Celebrities are kept away from the SCOTUS as to not draw unnecessary attention.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by a.e.B.O.T.

Any thoughts of Clinton's Assassination comments... So, yes, I don't think she meant that she is staying the race, hoping Obama gets assassinated, but how could she not realize how distasteful she sounded? I don't really get it...

Oh, I think that supreme court is a bit of a stretch. Oh, and it has to be approved by Congress, and I don't think she will get far. Political Celebrities are kept away from the SCOTUS as to not draw unnecessary attention.

I think it was a terrible choice of words, especially when made during a week when Senator Kennedy's health problems have hit the news. I think that Hilary is frustrated and let something slip.

Back on the SCOTUS point - my biggest issue is that there are a whole lot of others who are more qualified than her for the next open spot. I know she worked with the House Committee on the Judiciary during Watergate, but if I remember, she doesn't have any other legal experience on the federal level, and wasn't an appellate advocate of any distinction. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me on those points.

I know that there have been previous cases (Lewis Powell for one) of people being elevated to the Court with little to no judicial or appellate advocacy experience. However, with the level of scrutiny given to SCOTUS nominees these days, I think it would be nearly impossible for such a nominee to be confirmed today.

Plus, the conservatives still upset about Bork would have a field day with a Hilary nomination process.

[a.e.B.O.T.]

All this talk about making Clinton VP or giving her the SCOTUS spot makes it seem like Obama OWES Clinton.

He does not owe her anything at all, and likewise for her if she had clinched the Democratic Nomination. They were just candidates, won wins, one loses. There is no tie or consolation prizes needed.