gasoline prices

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Get over yourself. If people have the resources and the want to to drive luxury sedans and SUVs it should be none of your concern. Yeah, fuck all of those parents who drive big and safe cars for their children. You tell 'em tough guy.

Brother;
You may just wish to turn on the news this morning.
The sales of large SUVs is dropping like a stone in water.
They are sitting on the lots.
Per CBS-National radio news 7:00 AM.

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

^^^I like it enough that I would if I could afford it. However, I don't go through 26 galloons of anything in a week, so this chicken is moot.

Yeah, but you're missing my point, when I'm in school I go through 26 gallons of gas every four days. While this is certainly not an average for most americans, i don't know what is, but you get my drift that you use a lot more gas than you do milk. My point is that there are way more supplies for gasoline than there are for milk or most other products. The reason that oil prices are so high is because the demand in the global market is high. OPEC claims that they are producing enough oil to meet the worlds consumption, so there are only two ways to lower gas prices, simply use less, which is not a viable option as the demand for gas is very inelastic. The second is for OPEC to raise their daily output, which they have already said they aren't doing. And when gas goes up that makes everything else more expensive too. To compare gas to a consumer product such as milk is just flat out retarded.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by nate2512

Yeah, but you're missing my point, when I'm in school I go through 26 gallons of gas every four days. While this is certainly not an average for most Americans, i don't know what is, but you get my drift that you use a lot more gas than you do milk. My point is that there are way more supplies for gasoline than there are for milk or most other products. The reason that oil prices are so high is because the demand in the global market is high. OPEC claims that they are producing enough oil to meet the worlds consumption, so there are only two ways to lower gas prices, simply use less, which is not a viable option as the demand for gas is very inelastic. The second is for OPEC to raise their daily output, which they have already said they aren't doing. And when gas goes up that makes everything else more expensive too. To compare gas to a consumer product such as milk is just flat out retarded.

I agree but there is at least one other "choke point" which is production.
And just thought of another one which also has been in the news: distribution/transportation.

We all have heard by now of need for more production facilities and when ever one plant goes down for whatever reason, prices go up.

Just as when ever pipe line or tanker has a problem prices go up.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by nate2512

Yeah, but you're missing my point, when I'm in school I go through 26 gallons of gas every four days. While this is certainly not an average for most americans, i don't know what is, but you get my drift that you use a lot more gas than you do milk. My point is that there are way more supplies for gasoline than there are for milk or most other products. The reason that oil prices are so high is because the demand in the global market is high. OPEC claims that they are producing enough oil to meet the worlds consumption, so there are only two ways to lower gas prices, simply use less, which is not a viable option as the demand for gas is very inelastic. The second is for OPEC to raise their daily output, which they have already said they aren't doing. And when gas goes up that makes everything else more expensive too. To compare gas to a consumer product such as milk is just flat out retarded.

No, I didn't miss your point. You seem to have missed mine. I don't go through 26 gallons of milk in a week, but I don't go through anywhere near 26 gallons of gas either, so asking me that question as a way to support your argument was ineffective. That's what that post meant.

And the flaw is not that one is a necessity and the other is a consumer product. The problem is that we gripe about how expensive our necessity is when we happily spend on consumer products which are infinitely more expensive. That's what's retarded. It makes America look like a place full of people with backwards priorities (which it is but we could at least try to hide it). If you don't do that, then it doesn't apply to you.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Brother;
You may just wish to turn on the news this morning.
The sales of l;arge SUVs is dropping like a stone in water.
They are sitting on the lots.
Per CBS-National radio news 7:00 AM.

That is expected. Doesn't really have anything to do with what I was saying though.

People who want to drive SUVs and luxury cars and have the means to do so are going to do it and there shouldn't be anything wrong with that. If someone called my mom an "ass" for driving a Mercedes they're probably going to get a fist in the face. That goes for old men with drinking and spelling problems as well.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by macallan25

That is expected. Doesn't really have anything to do with what I was saying though.

People who want to drive SUVs and luxury cars and have the means to do so are going to do it and there shouldn't be anything wrong with that. If someone called my mom an "ass" for driving a Mercedes they're probably going to get a fist in the face. That goes for old men with drinking and spelling problems as well.

Understood.

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

No, I didn't miss your point. You seem to have missed mine. I don't go through 26 gallons of milk in a week, but I don't go through anywhere near 26 gallons of gas either, so asking me that question as a way to support your argument was ineffective. That's what that post meant.

And the flaw is not that one is a necessity and the other is a consumer product. The problem is that we gripe about how expensive our necessity is when we happily spend on consumer products which are infinitely more expensive. That's what's retarded. It makes America look like a place full of people with backwards priorities (which it is but we could at least try to hide it). If you don't do that, then it doesn't apply to you.

But even your milk would be cheaper if gas is cheaper, everything would be cheaper. What I'm saying though is that the supply for milk is a lot less than that for gas, so the more supply of something the cheaper it'll be. The more demand, the more expensive. That's pretty basic. But people aren't going to gripe about the price of milk, cause they aren't buying it in the volume that they buy gas. And to be correct, I gripe about the price of everything, milk, soft drinks, food, about as equally as gas. The supply demand curves are met for all for those though, because yes I'm willing to pay the price asked for those products. However, though I'm really not willing to, I'm FORCED to pay the price for gasoline that is set, that is why I have such a big problem with the gas prices. Gas is the most inelastic product on the american consumer market, that is why there is a huge ordeal about gas than other things.

Go take an economics class and then you can come back and chastise me, because I'll bet you'll agree with me a lot more.

I was putting off getting gas until my light came on and it finally came on today.

I pulled into my usual Chevron and noticed that the red Regular pump was bagged up. I drove around to another pump and same thing. They freaking ran out of Regular gas, so I bit the bullet and paid $3.91 for Premium.

[christiangirl]

^^You poor thing, I would've gone to another station. There's usually 3 or 4 grouped together at an intersection and I try to remember that when the baggies go up!

Originally Posted by nate2512

And to be correct, I gripe about the price of everything, milk, soft drinks, food, about as equally as gas.

I've already said it once, but you obviously need me to say it again: if this is true, then what I said does not apply to you. Clearly, I stated my being fed up with the attitudes of people with backwards priorities--I've said NOTHING about rationalizing the prices of any product. How about you go take a class in remedial reading because that's twice you've wasted time constructing long-winded arguments against something I wasn't fighting you on.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled thread.

[Ronnie B]

Originally Posted by nate2512

Do you drink more than 26 gallons of milk every three days?

From an economic standpoint, they aren't comparable.

lol this is some funny chit.

If I drink one glass of milk, it gives me gas like a mug. I don't even want to imagine what 26 gallons would do to my system.

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

I know!

It wasn't even a FULL TANK!

I don't know for sure how big my tank is because I never wait until it is close to being empty to fill it up.

According to WikiAnswers (since I'm too lazy to go to my car to check the owners manual) the gas tank of my car has a capacity of 15.2 gallons.

The gas station I went to had Regular gas for $3.57/gal

Which would mean an actual FILL UP of my car is $54.264

It's a (*&@#$(*@# CAVALIER!!!!

On 4/26 it was $3.57/ gal reg. unleaded.

Today, 16 days later, at the same gas station, it was $3.74/gal.

I filled it up with about 1/3 left... and it was close to $38.

A full tank is now $56.85 for me.

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

On 4/26 it was $3.57/ gal reg. unleaded.

Today, 16 days later, at the same gas station, it was $3.74/gal.

I filled it up with about 1/3 left... and it was close to $38.

A full tank is now $56.85 for me.

At that rate, my fill is $97.84, and I fill up about twice a week.

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by nate2512

At that rate, my fill is $97.84, and I fill up about twice a week.

One of my coworkers has a REALLY bad commute... it's made worse because of traffic... and both him & his wife drive about the same distance.

They spend around $500 a MONTH on fuel.

Before gas prices started going up, they tried selling their home to move closer (when they moved out there the commute wasn't the way it is now) and they live in a nice area, but the house never sold after being on the market for several months.

I can't even fathom what a huge dent $500/mo would put on my fun budget

[ThetaDancer]

^^^ That's awful.

Gas hit $4.00/gallon here yesterday

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

I can't even fathom what a huge dent $500/mo would put on my fun budget

Ha I don't care how expensive gas is, I'm not giving up fun or beer.