Schools with most inactive NPC chapters

[kddani]

Originally Posted by 33girl

WHO ALSO MIGHT NOT HAVE A DAMN THING TO DO WITH EXPANSION.

Honestly, why don't you let oldu come here and back up his own claim instead of speaking for him?

Because that would involving signing out then signing back in under a different screen name Yep, I said it.

[BetteDavisEyes]

Originally Posted by kddani

Because that would involving signing out then signing back in under a different screen name Yep, I said it.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Busted!


ETA: How much longer before they both post at the same time to try & debunk your claim?

[kddani]

Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Busted!


ETA: How much longer before they both post at the same time to try & debunk your claim?

Easy enough to do. Sign in under one screenname on Internet Explorer, and under the other in Firefox.

[BetteDavisEyes]

Originally Posted by kddani

Easy enough to do. Sign in under one screenname on Internet Explorer, and under the other in Firefox.

LOL! I love it.

[oldu]

Let me give you some examples of how risky and difficult it is to start new chapters at highly popular but veryy competitive schools. At the University of Alabama where Alpha Phi will colonize this fall, three other attempts have been made by very strong organizations during the past 25 years but only one of the three, Gamma Phi Beta, succeeded. At the University of Oklahoma, seven attempts were made but only two, Alpha Phi and Alpha Omicron Pi, have been successful. At the University of Missouri, four tries and only Phi Mu succeeded. Several of the groups which failed had built new houses which they sold at a loss. (I know because I was involved in one of them.) Sentiments aside, sorority executives have to take a hard-nosed look at these opportunities and that is why they often opt not to be in the selection process when openings arise. I have no doubt that my friend's comments reflect the thinking of many other sorority leaders. They would be irresponsible if they did not take such a businesslike approach. My point was that as much as we would all like chapters at these major schools sometimes the risk factor is too great.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by oldu

Several of the groups which failed had built new houses which they sold at a loss. (I know because I was involved in one of them.)

Innnnteresting....

[33girl]

Originally Posted by oldu

My point was that as much as we would all like chapters at these major schools sometimes the risk factor is too great.

You mean "we" as in all the NIC fraternities, right?

Would a rickroll be appropriate here?

[violetpretty]

Also, the "success rate" really may not be indicative of a chapter's potential for success today. I'll use Maryland as an example. As has been said, Maryland has 14 active chapters and 6 inactive chapters. Only one of those chapters had closed "eons ago" in the 1920s. The other 5 closed between 1990 and 2000, one for risk management reasons. The other 4 had been small, struggling chapters.

However, this is before release figures or before quota was set to allow for optimum matching. Since I have recruitment data from the past 20 years at Maryland, I was looking at 1994.
Total women participating in bid matching=442
Quota=36
Number of sororities filling quota (out of 15)=5 (4 more came close, the other 6 missed it by a lot)
So, in case you don't have a calculator out, 442/15=29.5, so quota SHOULD have been around 29-30. Why on earth was quota set so ungodly high? NO WONDER smaller chapters closed!

I know Maryland can't be the only school that saw chapters close because release figures weren't figured out yet. If release figures had been used beginning in the 1980s, I really think we might still have Pi Phi, AGD, AXiD, and Gamma Phi, or at least, some of them.

[kstar]

Originally Posted by oldu

At the University of Oklahoma, seven attempts were made but only two, Alpha Phi and Alpha Omicron Pi, have been successful.

Actually, seven presented to Panhellenic, but only two were chosen to colonize. That is way different than saying only two were successful.

[oldu]

Actually seven different sororities installed chapters during that period. Five of them ultimately closed and only Alpha Omicron Pi and Alpha Phi survive today. I don't know how many groups presented when Alpha Phi, the most recent, organized. They may have had a pre-commitment to re-install since they retained their house while they were inactive.