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Old 05-01-2008, 01:13 AM
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I know people like this. There were tons of Republican gay dudes at W&L and even some who were "fratty." Some of them only came out of the closet after graduation. Not that me knowing people like this proves anything to you.

You probably know people like this too, but just don't realize they're gay.
You're right. I mean, I have no reason to believe you're not being truthful, but anecdotal evidence doesn't mean overly much. I know/have known a lot of gay folks, and none of them really fit that bill. My experience has just been different. But regardless, I still think that the people we're describing are a very small percentage. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

About the last part, who knows. I think it is sometimes a cop out when people say this, as I don't think lines are drawn that clearly. Maybe somebody I would never have thought will turn up gay, but I think it is just as likely that this won't happen. But many will respond that "oh, well they are gay, they just never come out." Perhaps so, but these are certainly convenient ways to never admit being wrong in such arguments.

But even if people were gay in my fraternity, for example, that doesn't really aid the argument that they should be included in membership. So they're like us in a lot of ways, except for a rather major one (sexual orientation). Obviously they don't feel comfortable coming out in that environment, but this has been discussed extensively above.
 

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