Dems: Popular Vote vs Electoral College Votes?

[Thetagirl218]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

In my mind, Florida and Michigan are done deals, and should not be counted. Howard Dean, as head of the DNC, let the state Democratic parties in both Michigan and Florida know exactly what would happen if they did what they did. Neither state followed the rules, and therefore, their votes don't count.

As some of you know I am a conservative, but I will stick up for the Florida Democratic Party in this case. I don't know how it was in MI, but in FL both state houses and governor's mansion are all occupied by Republicans as are many of the other elected officials in the state. The Republicans changed the primary date to basically screw with the Dems, and it worked.

I do not agree with what my party did, but I would have thought that the National Democratic party would have considered this in their original decision to throw out the votes. In my opinion is was a disfranchisement to the Democrats of Florida. That being said, I am not in favor of another vote; in fact, this won;t happen because it is past the time
line in the State of Florida.

As for the Electoral College, I think it is funny this came up recently, as I just finished teaching my students about it! Remember that the original intent was that all states had a voice no matter if they were small or large (Sorry, its the government teacher inside of me!)

[AGDee]

I understand the original intent of the Electoral College but the reality is, if the biggest states all go the same way, the other states still don't really matter. The largest are so large and get so many electorates that it seems to negate that effect.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Thetagirl218

As some of you know I am a conservative, but I will stick up for the Florida Democratic Party in this case. I don't know how it was in MI, but in FL both state houses and governor's mansion are all occupied by Republicans as are many of the other elected officials in the state. The Republicans changed the primary date to basically screw with the Dems, and it worked.

I do not agree with what my party did, but I would have thought that the National Democratic party would have considered this in their original decision to throw out the votes. In my opinion is was a disfranchisement to the Democrats of Florida. That being said, I am not in favor of another vote; in fact, this won;t happen because it is past the time
line in the State of Florida.

As for the Electoral College, I think it is funny this came up recently, as I just finished teaching my students about it! Remember that the original intent was that all states had a voice no matter if they were small or large (Sorry, its the government teacher inside of me!)

If the Florida Democrats had actually voted against the proposal, I might agree with you.

[Thetagirl218]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

If the Florida Democrats had actually voted against the proposal, I might agree with you.

Good Point!

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by Thetagirl218

As some of you know I am a conservative, but I will stick up for the Florida Democratic Party in this case. I don't know how it was in MI, but in FL both state houses and governor's mansion are all occupied by Republicans as are many of the other elected officials in the state. The Republicans changed the primary date to basically screw with the Dems, and it worked.

I do not agree with what my party did, but I would have thought that the National Democratic party would have considered this in their original decision to throw out the votes. In my opinion is was a disfranchisement to the Democrats of Florida. That being said, I am not in favor of another vote; in fact, this won;t happen because it is past the time
line in the State of Florida.

As for the Electoral College, I think it is funny this came up recently, as I just finished teaching my students about it! Remember that the original intent was that all states had a voice no matter if they were small or large (Sorry, its the government teacher inside of me!)

You can blame the Republicans all you want, but the bottom line is that it was an unanimous decision. Nobody's hands are clean on that decision - everybody needs to accept the responsibility.

Just on watching the past elections, I think the White House is the Democrats' to lose. This is going to be an election for the books.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by Thetagirl218

As some of you know I am a conservative, but I will stick up for the Florida Democratic Party in this case. I don't know how it was in MI, but in FL both state houses and governor's mansion are all occupied by Republicans as are many of the other elected officials in the state. The Republicans changed the primary date to basically screw with the Dems, and it worked.

How does that work exactly, when the state Democratic party knew exactly what it was doing? I'm a registered Democrat in Florida (although I haven't lived there in almost a decade), and I knew full well what was going to happen.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

How does that work exactly, when the state Democratic party knew exactly what it was doing? I'm a registered Democrat in Florida (although I haven't lived there in almost a decade), and I knew full well what was going to happen.

Exactly, if I remember correctly no Florida Democrats dissented in the final vote.