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Old 04-27-2008, 10:24 AM
nittanyalum nittanyalum is offline
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As pointed out by others, it only takes one or two to change that situation rather quickly.

And as I indicated, it is questioned if those kind of people who are inclined to change matters in that fashion have a "connection to Al.

And even if they do not, turns ugly fast.

And the matter still gets turned around onto the cops once again.
And Jon, it only takes inflammatory assumptions like in your first sentence to lead down the slippery slope of infringing on civil liberties. Denying citizens their rights to peaceably assemble and redress grievances is how totalitarian governments squelch the voice of the people. Trying to justify it by inciting fear of violence before anything even happens is manipulation at its worst.

I also caught how you made sure to refer to "peace" officers in an earlier post. That title has not been earned by the police officers in this case. That does not mean that citizens as a whole distrust or don't see the need for police officers in general (who at their best, are "peace" officers). But it does mean that when someone who wears a badge blatantly does something wrong, the badge shouldn't protect them from being held accountable. Which is too often the case.

And another person said something about people needing to get as upset about police officer shootings as they are in this case. I think people's sympathies are always with officers (and their families) who are lost while they are faithfully executing their duties. However, name a case where a police officer was killed in a hail of 50 bullets, the shooters were caught, and they walked.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:59 PM
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And Jon, it only takes inflammatory assumptions like in your first sentence to lead down the slippery slope of infringing on civil liberties. Denying citizens their rights to peaceably assemble and redress grievances is how totalitarian governments squelch the voice of the people. Trying to justify it by inciting fear of violence before anything even happens is manipulation at its worst.

I also caught how you made sure to refer to "peace" officers in an earlier post. That title has not been earned by the police officers in this case. That does not mean that citizens as a whole distrust or don't see the need for police officers in general (who at their best, are "peace" officers). But it does mean that when someone who wears a badge blatantly does something wrong, the badge shouldn't protect them from being held accountable. Which is too often the case.

And another person said something about people needing to get as upset about police officer shootings as they are in this case. I think people's sympathies are always with officers (and their families) who are lost while they are faithfully executing their duties. However, name a case where a police officer was killed in a hail of 50 bullets, the shooters were caught, and they walked.
Do you know/understand the term Peace Officer? If not:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_officers
Covers the reasons I used the term.

As for Peace Officers being shot and shooters getting away with it; while I do not have a case in hand in the back of my mind I d believe that it has happened.
I will look around for it.
And since you brought it up, perhaps you too can see what evidence is out there.

I did find this story:
2 plead guilty in Atlanta police shooting death

Manslaughter pleas come after 3 officers indicted for killing elderly woman
ATLANTA - Two police officers pleaded guilty to manslaughter Thursday in the shooting death of a 92-year-old woman during a botched drug raid. A third officer was also indicted in the woman’s death.
Gregg Junnier, 40, who retired from the Atlanta police force in January, pleaded guilty to manslaughter, violation of oath, criminal solicitation and making false statements.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18328267/

And Rev Al has yet to show any interest in this:
Off-duty Md. officer fatally shot by city police
http://www.policeone.com/officer-sho...y-city-police/

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