Sean Bell's Killers (NYC Cops) Walk

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by NappyBison

At any rate police brutality is something that needs to be addressed by the appropriate persons and since it fails to be corrected you've got angry and ignorant individuals who choose to take the law into their own hands. I'm not condoning people running around and enforcing the whole "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" concept, but I can't blame these individuals for feeling the way they do.

Do you condemn or condone people for excusing what they did by accusing someone of brutality?

Or perhaps person trying to deflect responsibilities and thus their own actions or deeds.

[NappyBison]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Do you condemn or condone people for excusing what they did by accusing someone of brutality?

Or perhaps perhaps trying to deflect responsibilities and thus their own actions or deeds.

I'm not going to condone people for accusing someone of brutality due to their specific reasons on why something is considered brutality. You've got many African-Americans who've decided that this shooting was racially charged and those who do not. I can't say that I agree with AA's who believe this shooting was about race because two of the officers involved were AA.

[DArtist]

Originally Posted by NappyBison

I'm not going to condone people for accusing someone of brutality due to their specific reasons on why something is considered brutality. You've got many African-Americans who've decided that this shooting was racially charged and those who do not. I can't say that I agree with AA's who believe this shooting was about race because two of the officers involved were AA.

Race is definately the case. It seems that the norm is to be wary of AA, and draw first and let IA sort it out later. Police officers are trained to deal in specific situations that the average individual on the street would not have the reactionary time to handle. I can only wonder how many times this can repeat until people start reacting in a violent way.

[NappyBison]

Originally Posted by DArtist

Race is definately the case. It seems that the norm is to be wary of AA, and draw first and let IA sort it out later. Police officers are trained to deal in specific situations that the average individual on the street would not have the reactionary time to handle. I can only wonder how many times this can repeat until people start reacting in a violent way.

My point exactly.

You can't expect ppl to stand idlely and keep allowing stuff like this to take place. *sigh* I can't help but think that had Bell been a few shades lighter he'd probably still be alive.

[texas*princess]

It was sad to hear the news When I initially heard the story I couldn't believe it, and was sure the guys who needlessly shot him would be put in jail at the very least.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

It was sad to hear the news When I initially heard the story I couldn't believe it, and was sure the guys who needlessly shot him would be put in jail at the very least.

Please....in the 10 years since Amado Diallu was shot...only one officer was ever found guilty.....they will protect thier own.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Please....in the 10 years since Amado Diallu was shot...only one officer was ever found guilty.....they will protect their own.

Just had this sudden thought, sort of off topic thread but close enough, of just how many Peace Officers have been shot in the past 10 years?
And how many have died?

And I just heard the latest from The Rev.
"We are going to shut down this City"
"We are making plans, we are having meetings on just where and when to do so".
"We know how to strategically shut down this City".

Does any of that sound or seem like civilized negotiation or conversation?
Does making everyone else's life in NYC worse help help anyone or anything?
Does taking resources away from public safety (up to and including anti-terrorism) help anyone or anything?
Does the additional cost to the tax payer help anything or anyone?

Or does it sound, particularly in this day and age, like a terrorist threat??

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Just had this sudden thought, sort of off topic thread but close enough, of just how many Peace Officers have been shot in the past 10 years?
And how many have died?

And I just heard the latest from The Rev.
"We are going to shut down this City"
"We are making plans, we are having meetings on just where and when to do so".
"We know how to strategically shut down this City".

Does any of that sound or seem like civilized negotiation or conversation?
Does making everyone else's life in NYC worse help help anyone or anything?
Does taking resources away from public safety (up to and including anti-terrorism) help anyone or anything?
Does the additional cost to the tax payer help anything or anyone?

Or does it sound, particularly in this day and age, like a terrorist threat??

at least 11 officers have died since 2001.... but still we are talking about UNARMED citizens who in most cases were in the wrong place at the wrong time when these cops decided to fill them up with lead.

A terrorist threat?

As long as any protest march or whatever is PEACEFUL, there is no threat unless they plan on killing...mind you last month there were protesters here in DC who shut down and disrupted portions of the city that day because they were protesting the war....they blocked traffic, disrupted the IRS...MY office (Dept of Vet Affairs) and so on....

But.....we didn't call them terrorists....so what are you playing at Jon?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by jon1856

And I just heard the latest from The Rev.
"We are going to shut down this City"
"We are making plans, we are having meetings on just where and when to do so".
"We know how to strategically shut down this City".

Sounds good!

I shut 'em down (shut 'em down, shut 'em, shut 'em down!!!)

I'm sure he isn't advocating a riot but rather a protest. People have mobilized protestors for less.