Sean Bell's Killers (NYC Cops) Walk

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Reading Al Sharpton being described as a "champion" of anything makes me throw up in my mouth a little.

That's personal.

I'm not a fan of Sharpton's style but I won't deny that his voice gets heard FOR A REASON.

[NappyBison]

I must admit, I wasn't too surprised when I heard the judge's ruling Aside from the fact that he claims the prosecution hurt themselves with the evidence they presented, I don't see how that justifies letting these officers off. From my understanding, Bell didn't ID himself in a "timely manner" and the story continues from there. I just hope this case doesn't get flip-flopped around in civil court, but I know it probably will

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by NappyBison

I must admit, I wasn't too surprised when I heard the judge's ruling Aside from the fact that he claims the prosecution hurt themselves with the evidence they presented, I don't see how that justifies letting these officers off. From my understanding, Bell didn't ID himself in a "timely manner" and the story continues from there. I just hope this case doesn't get flip-flopped around in civil court, but I know it probably will

well unfortunately...he was drunk

[NappyBison]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

well unfortunately...he was drunk

This is true...but what man doesn't have a few drinks at his bachelor party? I know it had to be obvious that Bell wasn't sober enough to respond as quickly as the officers wanted him too. I guess what I'm trying to determine, is what was the trigger that sent bullets flying???

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by NappyBison

This is true...but what man doesn't have a few drinks at his bachelor party? I know it had to be obvious that Bell wasn't sober enough to respond as quickly as the officers wanted him too. I guess what I'm trying to determine, is what was the trigger that sent bullets flying???

You know what...that's the part we DONT know.

being as the officers were moving in on Bell and his friends because they suspected them of going to get some weapons, what would have stopped them from fully displaying badges and also calling in uniformed cops to detain these guys?

Just because someone says "go get my gun" doesn't mean that they have one.

matter of fact...check this article out:


NYPD Lieutenant's shocking recollection at Sean Bell trial


The leader of the NYPD detectives who killed Sean Bell in a 50-bullet barrage testified Friday he didn't hear his men identify themselves as cops before they opened fire.

Lt. Gary Napoli, the hapless leader of the undercover unit that night, also said he "didn't see any badges" in plain view before the cops shot Bell on his wedding day.

"Did you hear any police commands?" prosecutor Charles Testagrossa asked.

"No," Napoli said.

"Did you ever hear any shouts, 'Police!' 'Don't move!" Testagrossa asked.

"No," Napoli replied again.

The stunning admission came on the fourth day of the 50-shot trial, which began with Napoli being forced to identify accused detectives Michael Oliver, Gescard Isnora and Marc Cooper by name.

Then Napoli, who was not charged with a crime but has been accused of incompetence, gave his version of events that culminated with the death of the 23-year-old groom-to-be outside a seedy Queens strip joint on Nov. 25, 2006.

Napoli's team was doing a sting at the Kalua Cabaret on 94th Ave., where Bell - a father of two - was having his bachelor party.

In earlier testimony, Napoli admitted the ill-fated operation was poorly planned but he was determined to make one more arrest so they could padlock the club.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...lection_a.html

[NappyBison]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

You know what...that's the part we DONT know.

being as the officers were moving in on Bell and his friends because they suspected them of going to get some weapons, what would have stopped them from fully displaying badges and also calling in uniformed cops to detain these guys?

Just because someone says "go get my gun" doesn't mean that they have one.

Cosign Cosign Cosign!


smh

IMHO, I bet Bell or one of his aquaintances made some sort of gesture that the police probably misread (I use that term loosely) and things escalated from that point forward. Have these cops been placed on any type of suspension since the incident???

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

You know what...that's the part we DONT know.

being as the officers were moving in on Bell and his friends because they suspected them of going to get some weapons, what would have stopped them from fully displaying badges and also calling in uniformed cops to detain these guys?

Just because someone says "go get my gun" doesn't mean that they have one.

matter of fact...check this article out:


NYPD Lieutenant's shocking recollection at Sean Bell trial


The leader of the NYPD detectives who killed Sean Bell in a 50-bullet barrage testified Friday he didn't hear his men identify themselves as cops before they opened fire.

Lt. Gary Napoli, the hapless leader of the undercover unit that night, also said he "didn't see any badges" in plain view before the cops shot Bell on his wedding day.

"Did you hear any police commands?" prosecutor Charles Testagrossa asked.

"No," Napoli said.

"Did you ever hear any shouts, 'Police!' 'Don't move!" Testagrossa asked.

"No," Napoli replied again.

The stunning admission came on the fourth day of the 50-shot trial, which began with Napoli being forced to identify accused detectives Michael Oliver, Gescard Isnora and Marc Cooper by name.

Then Napoli, who was not charged with a crime but has been accused of incompetence, gave his version of events that culminated with the death of the 23-year-old groom-to-be outside a seedy Queens strip joint on Nov. 25, 2006.

Napoli's team was doing a sting at the Kalua Cabaret on 94th Ave., where Bell - a father of two - was having his bachelor party.

In earlier testimony, Napoli admitted the ill-fated operation was poorly planned but he was determined to make one more arrest so they could padlock the club.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...lection_a.html

And this was the Boss who on the stand stated that he hid under his seat while the shoot was going on and once it stopped walked up to the officers and did not even ask what just happened.

[shinerbock]

Of course saying "go get my gun" doesn't mean they have one, but if you've heard that, and someone makes some sudden movement in a tense situation, it can certainly create reasonable fear for your life.

I still don't see how this shooting is anything other than absurd, but I don't think that statement can be discounted.

[NappyBison]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

NYPD Lieutenant's shocking recollection at Sean Bell trial


The leader of the NYPD detectives who killed Sean Bell in a 50-bullet barrage testified Friday he didn't hear his men identify themselves as cops before they opened fire.

Lt. Gary Napoli, the hapless leader of the undercover unit that night, also said he "didn't see any badges" in plain view before the cops shot Bell on his wedding day.

"Did you hear any police commands?" prosecutor Charles Testagrossa asked.

"No," Napoli said.

"Did you ever hear any shouts, 'Police!' 'Don't move!" Testagrossa asked.

"No," Napoli replied again.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...lection_a.html

Thanks for the link

I'm wondering if police are required to make any formal orders which would reveal their identities before advancing towards any suspect/citizen especially with drawn weapons?

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

That's personal.

I'm not a fan of Sharpton's style but I won't deny that his voice gets heard FOR A REASON.

yes........often for comedic purposes.

haha.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by macallan25

yes........often for comedic purposes.

haha.

No.

But I laugh at most things and most people. Laughter doesn't mean that something more substantive is not happening.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

That's personal.

I'm not a fan of Sharpton's style but I won't deny that his voice gets heard FOR A REASON.

Yes, because accusations of racism are extremely stigmatizing, and he is prone to making them.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Yes, because accusations of racism are extremely stigmatizing, and he is prone to making them.

Yay!