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04-25-2008, 01:28 PM
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Before I even post I will state that ANYTHING that Rev Al gets involved with will ALWAYS be turned into a matter of RACE. Just MVHO. Based on his MO of many years.
And since I have yet any postings from today with what happened; please read some of them. As well as links off of them:
From the NY local papers:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/26/ny...26BELL.html?hp
http://breakingnews.nypost.com/dynam...P&SECTION=HOME
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...itted_of_.html
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/ne...,3279195.story
http://www.amny.com/news/ny-nycops0426,0,4250.story
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24305660/
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/25/...ial/index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352566,00.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...edName=topNews
From the radio feeds I heard, many of the local crime beat reporters said that the "unreliable testimony of Bell's friends" (I am using a kind phase) hurt the case.
"Justice Arthur J. Cooperman, who delivered the verdict in State Supreme Court, said many of the prosecution’s witnesses, including Mr. Bell’s friends and the two wounded victims, were simply not believable. “At times, the testimony of those witnesses just didn’t make sense,” he said."
BTB, Rev Al is involved in another police shooting case in NY metro area.
An off duty local officer was shot and killed by four County Officers.
Rev Al got involved even before it was publicly announced that the victim was black. The four County Officers are mixed group.
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04-25-2008, 01:30 PM
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I knew that someone on the A train was bound to pull in soon...and right on time.
Jon...go back and read some of the posts here too...
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04-25-2008, 01:34 PM
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I knew that someone on the A train was bound to pull in soon...and right on time.
Jon...go back and read some of the posts here too...
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I have, I will. You should as well  
IMVHO, too many people are confusing emotional issues (which can in some ways be justified) with legal matters and issues.
A train????  
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04-25-2008, 01:50 PM
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I have, I will. You should as well
IMVHO, too many people are confusing emotional issues (which can in some ways be justified) with legal matters and issues.
A train???? |
A Train....yes....hehe...waiting for another one to pull in....
To answer your question....with a question....why do you think this trial was done without a jury....?
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04-25-2008, 01:53 PM
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A Train....yes....hehe...waiting for another one to pull in....
To answer your question....with a question....why do you think this trial was done without a jury....?
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Yeah, that was referred to as a "risky" choice by the defendants at first... uh, no, they must have known a jury would be much more likely to put them in the slammer for decades while a single judge is much easier to, oh, let's just say, "convince".
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04-25-2008, 02:00 PM
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Yeah, that was referred to as a "risky" choice by the defendants at first... uh, no, they must have known a jury would be much more likely to put them in the slammer for decades while a single judge is much easier to, oh, let's just say, "convince".
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The same kind of jury known in NY for giving very high awards in Property & Casualty cases.
I would rather have the evidence and witness convince me.
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04-25-2008, 01:57 PM
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A Train....yes....hehe...waiting for another one to pull in....
To answer your question....with a question....why do you think this trial was done without a jury....?
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Still not clear about A train comment.
I do know that answer-while I many have only stayed once or twice in a Holiday Inn Express my Dad was a litigator. He argued in front of the USSC.
However that is only one of many issues involved in this case.
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04-25-2008, 02:05 PM
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Still not clear about A train comment.
I do know that answer-while I many have only stayed once or twice in a Holiday Inn Express my Dad was a litigator. He argued in front of the USSC.
However that is only one of many issues involved in this case. |
When it pulls in again.. I will make it clear for ya...hehehe!
I was asking the question in part because I think the reason why no jury was involved, (unlike the Amadu Diallo case) was because of the possibility that emotions would have ruled instead of what you had mentioned
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04-25-2008, 02:12 PM
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When it pulls in again.. I will make it clear for ya...hehehe!
I was asking the question in part because I think the reason why no jury was involved, (unlike the Amadu Diallo case) was because of the possibility that emotions would have ruled instead of what you had mentioned
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I think we may actually be on the same page.
BTB, just which train are you waiting for?
And I thought that the Metro lines were Red, Blue, Yellow et al....
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04-25-2008, 02:27 PM
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too many people are confusing emotional issues (which can in some ways be justified) with legal matters and issues.
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Care to explain what this means?
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04-25-2008, 02:24 PM
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Before I even post I will state that ANYTHING that Rev Al gets involved with will ALWAYS be turned into a matter of RACE. Just MVHO. Based on his MO of many years.
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Based on HIS MO or based on a perceived need? I'm really humored at this line of discussion.
Whether or not people like Al Sharpton doesn't change that there is a need for voices to be heard and he's one way that voices have been heard for years. Al Sharpton champions the civil rights of some underrepresented groups, PERIOD.
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04-25-2008, 02:25 PM
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Based on HIS MO or based on a perceived need? I'm really humored at this line of discussion.
Whether or not people like Al Sharpton doesn't change that there is a need for voices to be heard and he's one way that voices have been heard for years. Al Sharpton champions the civil rights of some underrepresented groups, PERIOD.
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Two words: Tawana Brawley.
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04-25-2008, 02:27 PM
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Two words: Tawana Brawley.
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Is that the best you could do? 
ETA: Society and victim supporters have been duped for far less (if, in fact, Brawley's claims were untrue versus unsubstantiated). Remember the cases of whites who accused black assailants of murdering their loved ones when in fact the whites were the ones who killed the loved ones--these whites knew what they were doing when they played on the image of black assailants victimizing "helpless white people."
For folks who are unfamiliar: http://www.slate.com/id/2087557
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04-25-2008, 02:30 PM
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Is that the best you could do? |
No-but it could be a start. As he is always saying that someone should be held accountable for their actions. Yet he never has.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawana_Brawley
http://www.courttv.com/archive/legal...makers/tawana/
But why hi-jack a thread so early in the afternoon? 
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04-25-2008, 02:33 PM
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No-but it could be a start. As he is always saying that someone should be held accountable for their actions.
But why hi-jack a thread so early in the afternoon? |
Hijack a thread for something that isn't just a personal jab. Then I'll be more receptive to your rants.
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