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Old 06-01-2001, 03:13 PM
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Main Entry: 2order
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French ordre, from Medieval Latin & Latin; Medieval Latin ordin-, ordo ecclesiastical order, from Latin, arrangement, group, class; akin to Latin ordiri to lay the warp, begin
Date: 14th century
1 a : a group of people united in a formal way: as (1) : a fraternal society <the Masonic Order> (2) : a community under a religious rule; especially : one requiring members to take solemn vows b : a badge or medal of such a society; also : a military decoration
2 a : any of the several grades of the Christian ministry b plural : the office of a person in the Christian ministry c plural : ORDINATION
3 a : a rank, class, or special group in a community or society b : a class of persons or things grouped according to quality, value, or natural characteristics...
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Originally posted by KABillyMac:

Yes but its not just any other fraternity. Everyone in K.A. shares the same ideals and principles taught by K.A. The diffrence lies in wether or not some fraternities have set ideals and principles for their members.
I respect the belief you hold in the ideals your fraternity is teaching you, but I must say that I think you're making a gross generalization about other fraternities. To try to distinguish your organization from others of the same class simply by title lends itself in some cases to elitism and arrogance. I'm certainly not suggesting this to be the case necessarily with your chapter or indeed with KA, but when people are taugh to believe that they are in some respect better than others due to affiliation with any belief or organization, one tends to find some level of social unrest.

To offer a counterexample to your claim, my Fraternity has a very specific, very well defined set of ideals that are alluded to during pledging and explicitly stated and presented during initiation. Those ideals are presented from the Fraternity's point of view, but it can be easily seen upon studying the Ritual that these ideals may be applied to in fact every aspect of life. Now we may not align ourselves with any particular religious movement even though our Ritual was written by the minister son of a minister, nor do we call ourselves an "Order," but beyond the distinction of title between Fraternity and Order, I would submit that we are no different than you.

Our Fraternity was founded explicitly upon the ideal of Friendship and implicitly in the hopes of gathering together in an eternal bond those individuals who share the believe in striving for moral decency and personal improvement and development. Our Ritual does not proclaim religion, rather it supports it in whichever form any given member may wish to observe. My point, after I'm sure much long-windedness, is that one fraternity ought not to consider themselves superior for any reason, especially those superficial as titles. Instead, members of any given fraternity should endeavor to bring their organization into public favor by living according to the ideals their fraternity demands. Truly the only way for any fraternity to claim superiority is through the humble and proper actions of its members, and in such a case, their actions alone will make the claim for them.
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