Home Schooling Declared Illegal in CA!

33girl · #1 03-20-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

You've obviously not met all that many - or at least, I would say not a representative sample. Most (not all, of course) of the ones I've known have been more socially mature (less social pressure from peers, more interaction with adults).

What an adult finds pleasing and what an adolescent finds pleasing as far as social interaction are two very different things. Trust me, I've been there.

honeychile · #2 03-20-2008, 10:42 AM

I have to respectfully disagree with the "socially inept" part of home schooling. My godson & his brother & sister were all home schooled (in California), up until last year. This was done after the parents made the decision that their children's education was more important than having some of the "extras" of life - in other words, the parents did this sacrificially.

The father became ill (a story unto itself) and so the children were able to be with him up until he passed away - something they would have missed, had they been in a "real school" five days a week. Obviously, once he died, the mother had to go to work, so the kids started attending a private school on scholarship in the fall.

Within the first month of starting school for the first time, Erin was nominated for Homecoming Queen. Another three weeks later, she was a Homecoming Princess, coming in second. Her one brother is the star quarterback, and the other brother will start high school next year after winning the school's Talent Show.

I don't know about the world you all live in, but where I sit, Homecoming Princesses & star quarterbacks aren't considered "socially inept".

GeekyPenguin · #3 03-20-2008, 10:58 AM

I think home schooling is one of those thing it is really hard to make a blanket statement about. I've gone to school with kids who were home schooled for part of their education and adjusted really well into "normal" school life, but those kids were also the ones whose parents made sure their kids played on local sports teams, joined scout troops, and actually taught them a "standard" curriculum. I've also gone to school with kids who were home schooled and were completely socially inept and a little too busy learning the Bible and not learning how to you know, do math or science or have a normal conversation.

My boyfriend has this relative who was home schooled on the farm by parents who only had a high school education - he then went to a correspondence college and correspondence law school. He now is a farmer with more student loan debt than I have. I'm not sure what the point of that was.

ForeverRoses · #4 03-20-2008, 11:35 AM

[QUOTE=GeekyPenguin;1621005]I think home schooling is one of those thing it is really hard to make a blanket statement about. I've gone to school with kids who were home schooled for part of their education and adjusted really well into "normal" school life, but those kids were also the ones whose parents made sure their kids played on local sports teams, joined scout troops, and actually taught them a "standard" curriculum. I've also gone to school with kids who were home schooled and were completely socially inept and a little too busy learning the Bible and not learning how to you know, do math or science or have a normal conversation.

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I think you hit the nail on the head-- it all depends on how the child is taught. Do I think the Duggar children that are home schooled are getting the same level of education as SWTXBelle's kids? No. But those differences could be there with schools as well.

honeychile · #5 03-20-2008, 11:36 AM

You said it better than I - it really should be looked at on a case-to-case basis. These kids were encouraged to be in EVERYTHING so that they would be well socialized, same with some of the other homeschoolers I know. Only one of their parents went to college, but they both did take the home schooling classes.

I'm truthfully not sure that I would homeschool - but I would fight as hard as I could for the right to do so.

Munchkin03 · #6 03-20-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

My boyfriend has this relative who was home schooled on the farm by parents who only had a high school education - he then went to a correspondence college and correspondence law school. He now is a farmer with more student loan debt than I have. I'm not sure what the point of that was.

CORRESPONDENCE LAW SCHOOL?!

GeekyPenguin · #7 03-20-2008, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03

CORRESPONDENCE LAW SCHOOL?!

For real. We were kind of fascinated by it. Neither of us went to superhoity schools, but at least they're freaking ABA accredited. He was in school the same time as the Conservinator and apparently they had some amusing conversations over school breaks about how Wisconsin was teaching the Conservinator false laws.

The CORRESPONDENCE LAW SCHOOL (which should probably always be capitalized) is CA-accredited so the dude could move to CA and try and take that bar, but he doesn't want to leave the family farm.

Munchkin03 · #8 03-20-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

The CORRESPONDENCE LAW SCHOOL (which should probably always be capitalized) is CA-accredited so the dude could move to CA and try and take that bar, but he doesn't want to leave the family farm.

It's People's College of Law--by mail!

honeychile · #9 03-20-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03

It's People's College of Law--by mail!

It boggles the mind - how would a graduate question a witness, by mail?

Kevin · #10 03-20-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

For real. We were kind of fascinated by it. Neither of us went to superhoity schools, but at least they're freaking ABA accredited. He was in school the same time as the Conservinator and apparently they had some amusing conversations over school breaks about how Wisconsin was teaching the Conservinator false laws.

The CORRESPONDENCE LAW SCHOOL (which should probably always be capitalized) is CA-accredited so the dude could move to CA and try and take that bar, but he doesn't want to leave the family farm.

CORRESPONDENCE LAW SCHOOL?

University of Phoenix School of Law -- it's only a matter of time.

bejazd · #11 03-20-2008, 01:13 PM

^^^I thought they already had that..

I was actually thinking when I heard about this ruling a few weeks ago that National Univ etc would start offering a speedy quick way to get a "home school" teaching credential.

Munchkin03 · #12 03-20-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

CORRESPONDENCE LAW SCHOOL?

University of Phoenix School of Law -- it's only a matter of time.

UP scares me. A few people I know have gotten MBAs from there, and maybe I'm just a snob, but I'd rather pay $35K more and get it from a real school where I see my classmates. Just saying.

ZTAMich · #13 03-20-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

The CORRESPONDENCE LAW SCHOOL (which should probably always be capitalized) is CA-accredited so the dude could move to CA and try and take that bar, but he doesn't want to leave the family farm.

Correspondence Law School??? I thought trolls only made that kind of stuff up here on GC?

I KNOW there was drama here at least once over someone who was corresponding. Or said she was. Or had gone to 3 different law schools. And held a FT job. Something like that...

VandalSquirrel · #14 03-20-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

Every home schooled kid I have ever met was weird and socially inept.

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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

I think home schooling is one of those thing it is really hard to make a blanket statement about. I've gone to school with kids who were home schooled for part of their education and adjusted really well into "normal" school life, but those kids were also the ones whose parents made sure their kids played on local sports teams, joined scout troops, and actually taught them a "standard" curriculum. I've also gone to school with kids who were home schooled and were completely socially inept and a little too busy learning the Bible and not learning how to you know, do math or science or have a normal conversation.

My boyfriend has this relative who was home schooled on the farm by parents who only had a high school education - he then went to a correspondence college and correspondence law school. He now is a farmer with more student loan debt than I have. I'm not sure what the point of that was.

This has been my experience with home schooled kids in college. I do live in a rural and conservative area, so there are many people who are keeping their kids at home for religious reasons and some of those kids FAIL at adjusting to life at the University of Idaho. I will give props to one kid I know who was beyond socially awkward and has made leaps and bounds with adjusting to the real world by attending a public university. He made the conscious choice to join us and even though it causes issues with his Christian beliefs and background, he knows that it will help him function in the world at large.

I'm now curious about the percentage of home school graduates when comparing public and private institutions, and within the private religious denominations.

UGAalum94 · #15 03-20-2008, 05:13 PM

My experience is that kids who enter high school after being home-schooled do well with adults and with kids. (as well or better socially as they would probably have done had they attended public schools; well ahead academically and intellectually.)

I think that being home-schooled through middle school might be one of the best things that could happen to a girl, especially. The socialization that goes on 6-9th is pretty subhuman really, despite middle school teachers' best efforts.

I'm not being critical of parents who send their kids to schools, of course, but a lot of what people believe about home schooled kids has not in any way been reflected in my experience.

Now, kids whose parents pull them out during high school after the kids get in trouble and who then say they being "home schooled" are a totally different and dysfuctional group.