Tiers in The SEC

[Elephant Walk]

Have to get back on track a bit... I think the whole point about going into Texan cities and so forth is that there are still some holdout cities which are great places for fraternity men because of the size of Texas. I forgot to mention places like Midland, which is/was loaded with oil money. In the book Friday Night Lights they say it had more square feet of office space than New York at one time. In Georgia it's getting sparser with the growth of Atlanta. Florida gets a bit screwed. There's a couple of great places but it seems like the panhandle guys go elsewhere and the giant South Florida isn't always the most exceptional place.

[Lucky SC]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Have to get back on track a bit... I think the whole point about going into Texan cities and so forth is that there are still some holdout cities which are great places for fraternity men because of the size of Texas. I forgot to mention places like Midland, which is/was loaded with oil money. In the book Friday Night Lights they say it had more square feet of office space than New York at one time. In Georgia it's getting sparser with the growth of Atlanta. Florida gets a bit screwed. There's a couple of great places but it seems like the panhandle guys go elsewhere and the giant South Florida isn't always the most exceptional place.

It doesn't really matter anymore though because so many kids are coming from out of state now. #5 public school in the country has a pull of its own when recrutiing people, not to mention the stafford effect and the football team's new promise it holds.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by Lucky SC

It doesn't really matter anymore though because so many kids are coming from out of state now. #5 public school in the country has a pull of its own when recrutiing people, not to mention the stafford effect and the football team's new promise it holds.

You're undoubtedly right, but I don't think guys like Stafford (football ability aside) are the kind many traditional fraternities are looking for.

Unfortunately, improvement of a school's national reputation and growth doesn't always (perhaps often) coincide with sustainment of a great greek system.

[Lucky SC]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

You're undoubtedly right, but I don't think guys like Stafford (football ability aside) are the kind many traditional fraternities are looking for.

Unfortunately, improvement of a school's national reputation and growth doesn't always (perhaps often) coincide with sustainment of a great greek system.

very true.

i think throughout this whole conversation we have forgotten that it isn't necessarily going to result in quality or quantity. It almost seems to me that this whole conversation in a way has made the point that the more intelligent people are the less likely they are "cool" are a "fraternity man".

i dunno bout the rest of yall but i would like to be considered intelligent lol. i think we forget the difference between a nerd and a intelligent, worldly man.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by Lucky SC

very true.

i think throughout this whole conversation we have forgotten that it isn't necessarily going to result in quality or quantity. It almost seems to me that this whole conversation in a way has made the point that the more intelligent people are the less likely they are "cool" are a "fraternity man".

i dunno bout the rest of yall but i would like to be considered intelligent lol. i think we forget the difference between a nerd and a intelligent, worldly man.

Well, yeah the GPAs of most Greeks on campuses everywhere is higher than the general student body, so we are smart! It sucks that the "Animal House" stereotypes of Greek Life turn off some smart, talented men and women who would make excellent members of our organizations.

[Lucky SC]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

Well, yeah the GPAs of most Greeks on campuses everywhere is higher than the general student body, so we are smart! It sucks that the "Animal House" stereotypes of Greek Life turn off some smart, talented men and women who would make excellent members of our organizations.

well yea i understand that but it seems that if you want to be in a fraternity and have that image, then it seems that you should deter away from the schools like Duke, Wake Forest, Cornell, Stanford, UPenn, etc. The ideally thought of really smart schools