Hollywood Making Cr@p for the M@sses: A Video by Taualumna

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Taualumna

Ehh...I was just asking why some titles are changed.

Well, you seemed to be trying to make an argument that a specific title was "dumbed down."

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I believe what has happened is that Hollywood is running short on greenlighting good ideas and mkaing them nto movies...I used to say that we have run out of ideas, but I don't think that at all. Holly wood has just gotten lazy. Hollywood, instead of putting out more cutting edge movies has turned to doing the following:

1. Remaking 'classic' horror franchises (Halloween and now Friday the 13th)
2. Butchering comics and children's books (Spiderman, XMen and Golden Compass)
3. Chruning out way too many sequels for franchises that has long since left the limelight (Star Trek and A vs P anyone?)

Y'all act like this is something new. I can make a good case that "one of the best-loved movies of all time," the MGM 1939 "The Wizard of Oz," butchered the original story by making the whole trip to Oz a dream and stuffing in the whole "if-I-ever-go-looking-for-my-heart's-desire" sentimentality. And note that in the movie, Dorothy "accidently" throws water on the witch as she tries to put out the Scarecrow's fire; in the book, she grabs the bucket and throws water on the witch out of anger. And it's not even Disney.

There's really nothing new in this thread.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Well, you seemed to be trying to make an argument that a specific title was "dumbed down."

Y'all act like this is something new. I can make a good case that "one of the best-loved movies of all time," the MGM 1939 "The Wizard of Oz," butchered the original story by making the whole trip to Oz a dream and stuffing in the whole "if-I-ever-go-looking-for-my-heart's-desire" sentimentality. And note that in the movie, Dorothy "accidently" throws water on the witch as she tries to put out the Scarecrow's fire; in the book, she grabs the bucket and throws water on the witch out of anger. And it's not even Disney.

There's really nothing new in this thread.

Not that it's new...it's becoming more and more apparent....how many times was The 10 Commandments done? at least 3 before we got Cecil B Demille's verson.

I think the whole point of this thread is not how 'new' a phenomenon is, but how much blatant redundancy we are finding coming from the movie industry due in part to Hollywood's laziness.


Go thru a list of big movies coming out this year and count how many of them are either sequels or remakes...they probably far outnumber any based on an orginal story.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Not that it's new...it's becoming more and more apparent....how many times was The 10 Commandments done? at least 3 before we got Cecil B Demille's verson.

And that was in 1956. You say it's becoming more apparent, and you site four (or more) movies made before 1960 as your examples.

It's not becoming more apparent. Some people are just becoming more aware.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

And that was in 1956. You say it's becoming more apparent, and you site four (or more) movies made before 1960 as you're examples.

It's not becoming more apparent. Some people are just becoming more aware.

ok...

All the Texas Chainsaw Massacre Remakes, The 39 Steps done 4 times,1984 and The Fly (which is due out AGAIN in 09),King Kong, even your aforementioned Wizard of Oz was a remake (not referring to the Wiz)

I think we are trying to say the same thing and with that awareness, there is much frustatration to see something fresh...technology has helped Hollywood stay in the game but the lack of great stories or worse the lack of EXECUTING a great story is what is holding Hollywood back.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I think we are trying to say the same thing . . . .

I'm not so sure about that.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

ok...

All the Texas Chainsaw Massacre Remakes, The 39 Steps done 4 times,1984 and The Fly (which is due out AGAIN in 09),King Kong, even your aforementioned Wizard of Oz was a remake (not referring to the Wiz)

I think we are trying to say the same thing and with that awareness, there is much frustatration to see something fresh...technology has helped Hollywood stay in the game but the lack of great stories or worse the lack of EXECUTING a great story is what is holding Hollywood back.

Ooooookay...none of this about the dumbing down of movies for Americans unless people add their own spin.

Some people really enjoy remakes. Some of these people aren't familiar with the originals and others are familiar but like the breath of fresh air.

I happen to like the original Texas Chainsaw movies but even in the 1980s that movie was worn out by all the sequels. Then in the 1990s-2000s they decided to redo the original so a new audience (that isn't drawn to horror from the 1970s) can watch it. The remake wasn't bad. Night of the Living Dead was redone and the genre of the undead has been beaten to death (Dawn of the Dead's remake wasn't too bad).

I mostly watch horror and the remake of the Invasion of the Body Snatchers with Nicole Kidman was unnecessary because the original was so good. On a nonhorror take, there were even 2 different versions of my favorite movie, Imitation of Life and one wasn't that good.

As long as they don't remake my favorite horror movies The Exorcist or Poltergeist, I won't have to cut anyone. But if they do, there were talks of Dakota Fanning playing the lead in The Exorcist which will of course piss me off, that still won't be about the dumbing down of movies for Americans.

I get excited when I talk about horror movies.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Ooooookay...none of this about the dumbing down of movies for Americans unless people add their own spin.

Some people really enjoy remakes. Some of these people aren't familiar with the originals and others are familiar but like the breath of fresh air.

I happen to like the original Texas Chainsaw movies but even in the 1980s that movie was worn out by all the sequels. Then in the 1990s-2000s they decided to redo the original so a new audience (that isn't drawn to horror from the 1970s) can watch it. The remake wasn't bad. Night of the Living Dead was redone and the genre of the undead has been beaten to death (Dawn of the Dead's remake wasn't too bad).

I mostly watch horror and the remake of the Invasion of the Body Snatchers with Nicole Kidman was unnecessary because the original was so good. On a nonhorror take, there were even 2 different versions of my favorite movie, Imitation of Life and one wasn't that good.

As long as they don't remake my favorite horror movies The Exorcist or Poltergeist, I won't have to cut anyone. But if they do, there were talks of Dakota Fanning playing the lead in The Exorcist which will of course piss me off, that still won't be about the dumbing down of movies for Americans.

I get excited when I talk about horror movies.

They attempted a remake of the Excorcist 2 years ago didn't they or was it some prequel BS?


I missed it.

[33girl]

That was prequel BS. They've already had 2 sequels as well.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

They attempted a remake of the Excorcist 2 years ago didn't they or was it some prequel BS?


I missed it.

It was a prequel.