See, this is why people have bad perceptions of greeks. Whenever a problem is brought to light, instead of discussing solutions, everyone just denies that it exists. I am by no means "dissing" greek life anywhere. All I'm saying is that in certain groups hazing does exist, and I'm sure that you all know of groups at your schools that have had the same system. And again, they vary in "intensity" or whatever you want to call it. What my question to you all is, what have you found the results to be? It's an honest curious question. All legal issues aside, do you find that hazing in any form has positive or negative results after crossing? For my part, I would definitely report this group, but I don't really want to destroy their organization, which would most likely occur because NYU REALLY doesn't like greeks at all. And they're not necessarily bad people, they're following quidelines that have probably been in place for years...and that is my other question---how can you encourage change in pledging procedures without attacking other groups? Or is there just nothing to be done about it? Because really, when incidents like the fighting occur, it turns the University's attention on the entire greek community, and not in a positive way. Trust me, they're really out to get us! Anyway, that's all I really wanted to know, sorry if I put it in an antagonistic way, I don't mean to attack anyone, it was late and I was in a bad mood at the time I wrote my other posts. I really encourage any constructive responses you might have!
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